[Weird Fishes]

Okay, we all know the Fisker Karma has a sticker price in the $100,000 to $116,000 range, depending on the trim package. But I'm considering purchasing an EcoSport or EcoChic, and I want to know how much wiggle room I will have with the price before I go in to negotiate.

There are 203 brand new Fisker Karmas listed for sale at cars.com. I've gotta think there must be some room to negotiate the price. But maybe that's just wishful thinking?

In your opinion, what do you think people are paying for a Karma EcoSport or Karma EcoChic in today's market? Do you think there is wiggle room in the price and, if so, how much? Do you think the ability to negotiate price varies from market to market? Are prices in large cities like New York/Chicago/Los Angeles/Seattle more firm than they might be at dealers in Tampa/Winston-Salem/Rochester/Bentonville (that's in Arkansas)?

Any and all advice is most appreciated!

 

[SoCalGuy]

I've talked to a few dealers in different regions (midwest, tri-state and california) and they're holding firm on price at the moment, even the ones sitting with a bit of inventory. Truth is, the Fisker brand is still relatively unknown and has suffered from bad press, so dealers are reluctant to cut prices and take losses since Fisker has really yet to debut.

 

[matrix]

You are correct, there are plenty of cars that have been sitting on dealer lots for a while, in a wide range of colors. I suspect there are more than a few dealers anxious to sell them below MSRP now, but that's just a guess. My local dealer has 6 in stock. Check around your area and surrounding states... just keep in mind, you'll be paying for transport if your purchase is not local. If possible, purchase from your local dealer since you'll likely receive better service... and with this car, the service relationship is especially important considering all of the software updates, etc. Shop around, then present your best price to your local dealer and negotiate from there.

 

[LonePalmBJ]

Okay, we all know the Fisker Karma has a sticker price in the $100,000 to $116,000 range, depending on the trim package. But I'm considering purchasing an EcoSport or EcoChic, and I want to know how much wiggle room I will have with the price before I go in to negotiate.

There are 203 brand new Fisker Karmas listed for sale at cars.com. I've gotta think there must be some room to negotiate the price. But maybe that's just wishful thinking?

In your opinion, what do you think people are paying for a Karma EcoSport or Karma EcoChic in today's market? Do you think there is wiggle room in the price and, if so, how much? Do you think the ability to negotiate price varies from market to market? Are prices in large cities like New York/Chicago/Los Angeles/Seattle more firm than they might be at dealers in Tampa/Winston-Salem/Rochester/Bentonville (that's in Arkansas)?

Any and all advice is most appreciated!

Fisker raised the price of the car late last year about $6000. There are a number of dealers who bought cars on spec before the price increase and therefore have cars on the lot that cost *them* considerably less than current MSRP. Those would be your best bet. I know that my dealer, Fisker of Atlanta, has a number of cars in inventory and some of these they are selling at below-current-MSRP because they are pre-price increase cars.

I have not yet heard of anyone doing better than sticker except for cars with miles on them like Demos.

Brent

 

[dennis]

Fisker raised the price of the car late last year about $6000. There are a number of dealers who bought cars on spec before the price increase and therefore have cars on the lot that cost *them* considerably less than current MSRP. Those would be your best bet. I know that my dealer, Fisker of Atlanta, has a number of cars in inventory and some of these they are selling at below-current-MSRP because they are pre-price increase cars.

I have not yet heard of anyone doing better than sticker except for cars with miles on them like Demos.

Brent

The cars the dealers ordered before the price increase show the old (lower) price on the Monroney sticker. So it would be possible to see two identical Karmas on a dealer lot with different MSRP's.

 

[SoCalGuy]

Of course, the ones with the pre-increase MSRPs are also the earlier builds... I wonder how much margin each dealer has though... Anyone know what is 'standard' invoice vs. retail markup?

 

[ct-fiskerbuzz]

Of course, the ones with the pre-increase MSRPs are also the earlier builds... I wonder how much margin each dealer has though... Anyone know what is 'standard' invoice vs. retail markup?

Technically it's the earlier orders, not builds: my build has not even started but I put my order in before the $6k bump and I have the old price. Of course in general all the earliest orders are all built by now: it's only us Laguna-color folks who are still waiting. :dodgy:

Anyway, don't know about the Karma itself, but it's pretty typical to have a 15% difference between invoice and MSRP.

 

[Michael]

in what month can you say you have the 2013 model year?

 

[dennis]

in what month can you say you have the 2013 model year?

When the Monroney sticker on the car says 2013. The manufacturer determines when they switch model years.

 

[Wimbledon]

For new buyers, it is also worth contacting our sponsors, Fisker of Orlando and Fisker of Detroit. Each should be willing to work with Fisker Buzz members.

 

[Weird Fishes]

Big thanks to everyone for their input on price/negotiating power.

@matrix: You make a good point that a dealer who is close by is probably a wise decision since a relationship with the dealer might be paramount in insuring a good experience with the car. Happily, I am in a major metropolitan area--Seattle--with a Fisker dealer, so it is possible to buy from a good, nearby dealer.

@LonePalmBJ and @dennis: I didn't think about the cars that were ordered pre-price-increase. I just assumed they were delivered to people who put down a deposit. Of course, it's also a good point that a pre-price-increase car might be an early build car that might also be more prone to problems.

@ct-fiskerbuzz: That's helpful information that dealer markup is usually 15%. Thank you.

 

[MArkansas]

Okay, we all know the Fisker Karma has a sticker price in the $100,000 to $116,000 range, depending on the trim package. But I'm considering purchasing an EcoSport or EcoChic, and I want to know how much wiggle room I will have with the price before I go in to negotiate.

There are 203 brand new Fisker Karmas listed for sale at cars.com. I've gotta think there must be some room to negotiate the price. But maybe that's just wishful thinking?

In your opinion, what do you think people are paying for a Karma EcoSport or Karma EcoChic in today's market? Do you think there is wiggle room in the price and, if so, how much? Do you think the ability to negotiate price varies from market to market? Are prices in large cities like New York/Chicago/Los Angeles/Seattle more firm than they might be at dealers in Tampa/Winston-Salem/Rochester/Bentonville (that's in Arkansas)?

Any and all advice is most appreciated!

Call John Camper in Arkansas and find out ! 479-586-8110

 

[kwsmith007]

Call Fisker Miami... Robert Manrique 305-690-6006 or (888)616-0381 They have been fantastic, the best car dealership I've ever dealt with. I would tell them you are calling all over the country for the best deal.

 

[Weird Fishes]

I hope this doesn't breach forum etiquette, but I wanted to give this thread a bump in case some owners had not yet seen it. Still wondering if anyone was able to negotiate the price of the car with their dealer? Thanks!