[DHH]

So as I read this forum - daily. We see lots of trepidation whether Elite Motors is not a CSP anymore or the pitfalls of the warranty program or where do we get our cars serviced. If I didn't know Joe I would sell the car tomorrow as my local CSP says it takes about three months to fix anything as they never work on them.

But really we all have a common theme - we all love these cars and we are all fearful that one day we will be without manufacturer support.

I have personally met with a few Karma executives and we have all watched the Autoline interview but at the end of the day none of us would bet on this car making a comeback.

I think it is just frustrating that the worlds most beautiful car will just fade away until we can no longer justify driving it as time marches on.

So I truly hope they build this car again but if it was going to be built this year pre-production models would be coming off the assembly line for months of testing and software validation - which has not happened.

Fingers crossed and I appreciate everyone's frustration here.

 

[JCMorrill]

It stands to reason that KA would not offer a warranty, and then not provide all the parts to keep the cars working. They'd just be asking for a lawsuit. The existence of the Warranty program has to be a positive sign about parts availability.

 

[Stefan]

I'd stay calm!

Even Chinese people need a reason to throw several hundreds of million $ around!
This is not just fake or buying of IP.
Otherwise they would have abandoned us immediately after the end of the CSP.
I think, they need some more time to get things sorted, we'll see a slight change in management (someone will take the responsibility and the severance package for the delay) and then we'll see new cars rolling off the production line and trucks full of spare parts...

Stefan

 

[BillyO]

I'd characterize myself more as concerned rather than worried. I'm buying into the warranty program. I've had my car for four years now and every problem I've had was covered by the original warranty or the negotiated program. The new Karma Automotive appears to be genuinely concerned about the current owners. Nothing has come up for me to think otherwise.
Four years ago, while I waited for delivery of my car; I felt like the original Fisker was being disingenuous regarding production numbers, the backlog of orders and the progression of assembling cars.
The new company seems to be taking a more pragmatic approach. They aren't projecting unreal production numbers and haven't yet promised something and not delivered. I'm satisfied that for $4,500, I'll be good for another 2 years. After that, who knows?
We have 3 choices:
Bail out and sell the car for $40-50K.

Take a chance nothing will go haywire and don't buy the warranty.

Pay the $4500 and buy some peace of mind.

It's just like insurance. It seems like a bad deal until you need it.

 

[JCMorrill]

I have only had my car a year, but other than that ... I feel exactly the same as BillyO. I'd like the chance to drive my car carefree for 2 years.

 

[steven]

I'm buying into the warranty program... I'm satisfied that for $4,500, I'll be good for another 2 years...

BillyO, do you have the "003" traction motors to qualify? I'm told only a few hundred cars have the "003" version.

 

[BillyO]

It's been 2 weeks and I'm still waiting to hear.

 

[jasonton87]

Good read and something I was concerned about myself as I was looking forward to purchasing one here in the coming months! Hopefully some info will have surfaced by then.

 

[JCMorrill]

Has anyone successfully purchased a warranty, yet? I'm waiting on parts for my RDM "checkup". All the rest of my car passed inspection, but I have to get the RDM looked at. Just wondered if anybody's made it all the way, yet? Seeing as the program's been going for 40 days.

 

[Harleyguy]

Has anyone successfully purchased a warranty, yet? I'm waiting on parts for my RDM "checkup". All the rest of my car passed inspection, but I have to get the RDM looked at. Just wondered if anybody's made it all the way, yet? Seeing as the program's been going for 40 days.

Who's rebuilding your RDM ?

 

[JCMorrill]

Our Local CSP - Corey Hom at the Scottsdale Vault.

 

[BillyO]

Has anyone successfully purchased a warranty, yet? I'm waiting on parts for my RDM "checkup". All the rest of my car passed inspection, but I have to get the RDM looked at. Just wondered if anybody's made it all the way, yet? Seeing as the program's been going for 40 days.

My CSP ( Frank Kent in Fort Worth) says they are still waiting to hear back from Karma after submitting the results of the inspections as well as some data download. It's been a couple months now since I took my car in for the original warranty work. Hopefully I'll get the green light next week and be able to begin enjoying my car again with the new plan. I miss it!

 

[JCMorrill]

That's kinda where I am -- but I have my car in my hands.

 

[FiskerPhilly]

We've gone completely through the process on some vehicles, 4 here at the moment in line for the warranty. Some of them with our rebuilt RDM/motors, and some virgins. The process is going smoothly but is time consuming.

 

[JCMorrill]

So, I told my CSP I wanted in mid-February. Is it even possible for us to get it done by 4/30?

 

[FiskerPhilly]

It takes a few days to complete including the RDM work however should it have damaged or worn splines the csp must then wait and leave it apart until they get replacement motors. We are fortunate that we are the only ones that do our own rebuilding in house so we can proceed with the process uninterrupted. Our only issue is our backlog of nearly 30 cars still being shipped in 2-3 a week.

 

[BillyO]

Looks like it'll be another month for me. The inspection was done and I'm in line for the RDM work.

 

[DHH]

Anyone have any idea where Karma stands on actually making the car again?

I would personally think if the car was going to be produced this year some pre-production or test mules would be rolling off the assembly line.

 

[JCMorrill]

They have some test cars out there. One of the Phoenix owners reported seeing a bunch of them "under test" running together through hotter areas of CA not long ago.

 

[Bert Yetman]

Billy O brings up an interesting point. My car is also in the shop for the 70 pt inspection, along with the 30K check and a new 12V battery. Been in the shop 5 weeks now and they haven't started on it. Only one technician available, and, I believe the service manager said over 16 cars before me. Now, if I buy the 24 month extended warranty, I'll be paying for several months of the Fisker just setting at the dealership. Can, or will, Karma extend the warranty to cover paid months of waiting, or inactivity, at the dealership?