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I took this a month ago or so, but seeing Brian's review thread inspired me to upload it.

Funny and short watch ( ~2min )

http://vimeo.com/41869469
 

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Hah! Glad to see I'm not alone. I really hope Fisker has been watching these videos. My favorite line in there "it's an interface for monkeys". Nice!

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Hah! Glad to see I'm not alone. I really hope Fisker has been watching these videos. My favorite line in there "it's an interface for monkeys". Nice!

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It's safe to say, they could of used better human factors engineer. The only saving grace is that it's software and it could be changed when Fisker decides it not helping thier reputation, not only becuase the interface is bad, but most of the features do not work as expected.
 

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I'm not a techie (well, at least not much of a techie), so I'm wondering how easily Fisker can change the interface? Is it as simple as releasing an update to the software? Or would it also require a replacement of the computer/hardware?
 

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I'm not a techie (well, at least not much of a techie), so I'm wondering how easily Fisker can change the interface? Is it as simple as releasing an update to the software? Or would it also require a replacement of the computer/hardware?
Software only. A good first step might be to simply improve the color scheme and button arrangement/attributes. That wouldn't take much time. :rolleyes:
 

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Weird Fishes said:
I'm not a techie (well, at least not much of a techie), so I'm wondering how easily Fisker can change the interface? Is it as simple as releasing an update to the software? Or would it also require a replacement of the computer/hardware?
Software only. A good first step might be to simply improve the color scheme and button arrangement/attributes. That wouldn't take much time. :rolleyes:
Amen!
 

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Considering that 6 months later the bloody Solar Energy screen doesn't do anything, I guess changing the color scheme would be like brain surgery to their guys.

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I'm guessing they used cheap-ass hardware that makes building anything really difficult - something like embedded systems design. The product is so bad that we can't assume the problems are surface level only - I assume terrible decisions ( or non-decisions ) were made at every level from team -> interface -> software architecture -> hardware.

So far, I haven't heard a whisper from a Fisker representative even acknowledging that they recognize that the command console is hurting the brand, car sales, hype levels - everything. It _definitely_ is. Now when I get stopped by people to talk about the car the conversation goes like, "oh, do you have problems with YOURS?". If they think it's not worth investing in, they are dead wrong. A killer command center would enable people to fall in love with the car again and give them a huge boost to positive press.

I hope they realize how deep the problem is, soon. They'd need to throw everything away and start over with the right team. The solution would probably be new hardware & software. Using modern hardware would enable a good team to completely re-write all, and _release_ all of the necessary functionality in about six months. We could also get other great benefits like ability to drag, see the screen in the day, not wait seconds for feedback and even upgrade the software whenever you have access to a wireless network.

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brian said:
Hah! Glad to see I'm not alone. I really hope Fisker has been watching these videos. My favorite line in there "it's an interface for monkeys". Nice!

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Still waiting for your review. ;)
 

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brian said:
Hah! Glad to see I'm not alone. I really hope Fisker has been watching these videos. My favorite line in there "it's an interface for monkeys". Nice!

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Still waiting for your review. ;)
My review went up last week: http://www.youtube.com/user/blgreenstone?feature=guide

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I'm guessing they used cheap-ass hardware that makes building anything really difficult - something like embedded systems design. The product is so bad that we can't assume the problems are surface level only - I assume terrible decisions ( or non-decisions ) were made at every level from team -> interface -> software architecture -> hardware.

So far, I haven't heard a whisper from a Fisker representative even acknowledging that they recognize that the command console is hurting the brand, car sales, hype levels - everything. It _definitely_ is. Now when I get stopped by people to talk about the car the conversation goes like, "oh, do you have problems with YOURS?". If they think it's not worth investing in, they are dead wrong. A killer command center would enable people to fall in love with the car again and give them a huge boost to positive press.

I hope they realize how deep the problem is, soon. They'd need to throw everything away and start over with the right team. The solution would probably be new hardware & software. Using modern hardware would enable a good team to completely re-write all, and _release_ all of the necessary functionality in about six months. We could also get other great benefits like ability to drag, see the screen in the day, not wait seconds for feedback and even upgrade the software whenever you have access to a wireless network.

Will
Scott Cronce VP Technology, Electronic Arts today at EVS26 http://goo.gl/pdpyl said he would love to develop games for EVs. He will make it fun and exciting. Just give him a car!

He also said another way to make EV exciting is to allow user to configure its performance parameters within limits.

Dean Devlin said marketing EV should not be like marketing medicine. Laughing at the Volt's adv about reason of getting an EV is when going to a gas station because of its bathroom (I never seen it, something along that line - unexciting adv). It should be exciting like marketing iPhone; what processors, how much memory etc.

I am thinking if it wasn't for the Karma's teething problems, Karma could easily be this exciting car that will lead a car generation now. It will come once it gets its things sort out.

I don't agree with Bob Lutz that you don't need fast charging when you have a 300 mile range EV. May be he meant you don't need it on the road since you might not need to charge it on the road. However, how long will it take to charge a 300 mile EV at home in 110V or even 240V? A couple of days? DC fast charging will be a necessity.
 

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Okay, I just watched the video. Ugh.

Fisker needs to hire Apple to develop a touch sensitive screen like that on the iPhone, along with a kick-ass interface (like the one on the iPhone). That would solve this problem once and for all!
 

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If FIsker was smart, they'd partner with software leaders like Apple and Google. Tesla for example, is partnered with Google for its navigation system. The guy who heads up the Model S infotainment unit is an ex-Apple engineer. Fisker, are you listening? All of us are here to help. Use us. Ask us. Help us help you!
 

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My review went up last week: http://www.youtube.com/user/blgreenstone?feature=guide

-Brian
You're amazing Brian. This review is great. I hope Fisker watches this video and makes as many changes as they can. Maybe they'll send you an award like the one you got from Apple as a token of their gratitude. If they do use your video to make the changes and don't send you anything I'll make you an award myself.
 

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Dean Devlin said marketing EV should not be like marketing medicine. Laughing at the Volt's adv about reason of getting an EV is when going to a gas station because of its bathroom (I never seen it, something along that line - unexciting adv). It should be exciting like marketing iPhone; what processors, how much memory etc.
Yes, its an oddball commercial about visiting the gas station only because he had to pee and getting questioned about his "electric car" at the gas station. Though, as to the last part, Apple is all about the features, not so much the spec.

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I don't agree with Bob Lutz that you don't need fast charging when you have a 300 mile range EV. May be he meant you don't need it on the road since you might not need to charge it on the road. However, how long will it take to charge a 300 mile EV at home in 110V or even 240V? A couple of days? DC fast charging will be a necessity.
I agree mainly because I think a great way to boost EV adoption is to lower the "refuel" time moreso than add huge amounts of range. A 350-400mile EV is on par with the "range" of many ICE vehicles. As for charge time now, it's more like overnight, not 2 days.

As for the command center, regardless of hardware, the UI should be able to be easily updated. Now, it might not get any faster/more responsive, but it can definitely get way more intuitive and easier to read.
 
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