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Okay with the anticipated arrival of my Karma in transit (cant wait:) ). Also with the original charger (may fail someday) coming with the car I need to get a level 2 for farster charging. With the karma max efficiency @ 18amps 3.3kw. Will this work?
1. I have to install a separate breaker 30amp breaker and wire it over to driveway a must. Pigtail it.
2. If the level 2 LSC-25 Clipper creek is hard wire. Can a u plug be installed on the end of it ( ie plug ends for dryers and large generators). Also a outlet if portable will be installled since proper wire is pulled there. If not junction box installed.
3. Can a detachable adapter from 220 to 110v be installed on LSC-25 to make it now portable able to carry around now.

Im thinking for a solution since I dont want to buy 2 additional chargers plus have OE charger. If portable solution doesnt work, will probably get the panasonic NN2R3H charger from EVSE upgrade (which is closed until 9/3:mad:). Thanks for any input.
 

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I have the Clipper Level 2 LSC 25 and a few degrees in EE. The key to any changes you make is to keep the Utility ground connection intact all the way to the fisker J plug. The circuit breaker panel in my house happens to be in my garage so I wired mine directly to a 30 AMP breaker. All EVSE devises have built in ground fault protection and extra circuit(s) to communicate with the car.
To answer your question. Yes you can wire the Clipper to a 240 V appliance type connector as long as it meets code and you keep the utility ground connection intact.
Installing a 240V receptacle outdoors should be done by a licensed electrician. Keep in mind insurance companies love do it yourself installations. They don't have to pay when you burn down your house. Where are you located?
 

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I have the Clipper Level 2 LSC 25 and a few degrees in EE. The key to any changes you make is to keep the Utility ground connection intact all the way to the fisker J plug. The circuit breaker panel in my house happens to be in my garage so I wired mine directly to a 30 AMP breaker. All EVSE devises have built in ground fault protection and extra circuit(s) to communicate with the car.
To answer your question. Yes you can wire the Clipper to a 240 V appliance type connector as long as it meets code and you keep the utility ground connection intact.
Installing a 240V receptacle outdoors should be done by a licensed electrician. Keep in mind insurance companies love do it yourself installations. They don't have to pay when you burn down your house. Where are you located?
MD reside....can it be made to 110v with adapter like Panasonic portable level 2
 

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Hi McGuiver

I've been using a Schneider Electric EVlink 30 Amp Level 2 Indoor Electric Vehicle Charging Station outside of my office for over a year (hidden,from site).

I had a "Pigtail" installed, so it can be removed, relocated and pluged into an alternate 220 dryer outlet if needed (like a hurricane warning).

I also used a home depot tool box to protect it from the weather and people. It nicely sits in the box, no mounting needed.

I have another one sitting uninstalled in the box in my garage. I've been using the 110 charger at home. I only live 15 mile from work, so it slow charges overnight. I've been to lazy to run the 220 electric line.

Hope this helps
 

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Hi McGuiver

I've been using a Schneider Electric EVlink 30 Amp Level 2 Indoor Electric Vehicle Charging Station outside of my office for over a year (hidden,from site).

I had a "Pigtail" installed, so it can be removed, relocated and pluged into an alternate 220 dryer outlet if needed (like a hurricane warning).

I also used a home depot tool box to protect it from the weather and people. It nicely sits in the box, no mounting needed.

I have another one sitting uninstalled in the box in my garage. I've been using the 110 charger at home. I only live 15 mile from work, so it slow charges overnight. I've been to lazy to run the 220 electric line.

Hope this helps
Thank you info helpful

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Hi McGuiver

I've been using a Schneider Electric EVlink 30 Amp Level 2 Indoor Electric Vehicle Charging Station outside of my office for over a year (hidden,from site).

I had a "Pigtail" installed, so it can be removed, relocated and pluged into an alternate 220 dryer outlet if needed (like a hurricane warning).

I also used a home depot tool box to protect it from the weather and people. It nicely sits in the box, no mounting needed.

I have another one sitting uninstalled in the box in my garage. I've been using the 110 charger at home. I only live 15 mile from work, so it slow charges overnight. I've been to lazy to run the 220 electric line.

Hope this helps
One additional data point on this topic: Even EVSE that are designed to be installed permanently can be connected using a dryer outlet. For example, my Blink charger came with two connection cables, one with a dryer-type plug and one with no plugs for direct connection.




I chose the dryer-plug installation mainly to make future upgrading easier, and to allow me to remove the charger and take it with me if I sold my house and the new owner does not have an EV, or has a Tesla which does not need the EVSE. At least in California, both methods are code-compliant, and in fact my installation was inspected by the city before they issued an electric permit for the charger.

So if you go with this approach, you just need to do the electrical work once, and then use a portable charger or install one permanently without having to re-wire.
 

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One additional data point on this topic: Even EVSE that are designed to be installed permanently can be connected using a dryer outlet. For example, my Blink charger came with two connection cables, one with a dryer-type plug and one with no plugs for direct connection.




I chose the dryer-plug installation mainly to make future upgrading easier, and to allow me to remove the charger and take it with me if I sold my house and the new owner does not have an EV, or has a Tesla which does not need the EVSE. At least in California, both methods are code-compliant, and in fact my installation was inspected by the city before they issued an electric permit for the charger.

So if you go with this approach, you just need to do the electrical work once, and then use a portable charger or install one permanently without having to re-wire.

Excellent setup thanks:)
 

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Get a leaf EVSE, there is a mod that will allow it to take 30A plus its portable and you can put any twist lock pigtail on the back of it.

http://evseupgrade.com/

The big wall mount units are not useful for the Karma as the car can only accept 18A max. If the Karma had a 10Kw charger on board or something like this then it would make sense.
 

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Get a leaf EVSE, there is a mod that will allow it to take 30A plus its portable and you can put any twist lock pigtail on the back of it.

http://evseupgrade.com/

The big wall mount units are not useful for the Karma as the car can only accept 18A max. If the Karma had a 10Kw charger on board or something like this then it would make sense.
Okay thanks...

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Well this is not a conversion but it gets the job done from zero to full charge in @ 5 hours.
Also I didn't trust those connection twist fittings from water intrusion on the CC, so I opened them up and applied silicon clear to tighten them down snugg.

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