Btw, I was told that the target weight of the Model S is around 3,800lbs, 1,500lbs lighter than the Karma!
That will definitely not be the weight of the 85 kWh-version, but of the one with the smallest pack.
The Karma is the more expensive cars, but it has only a very short options list. If you choose the top of the line Model S, with things that are standard on a Karma Ecosport, like bigger wheels, rear-view camera, etc, the prices are much closer to each other than I expected.
Still, I do like the Model S as an initiative and I hope it becomes succesfull.
I do not expect Fisker and Musk will ever get together, but I do expect each of them to merge with one of the bigger players eventually, because of their technological know-how, but also because it provides those big car companies with an opportunity to cut average CO2-emissions for all their cars. In Europe they will get hefty fines - hundreds of millions - if they don't meet certain maximum CO2-levels, and companies like Daimler AG are not doing well at this at the moment. Buying a company like Fisker or Tesla may turn out to be cheaper.
The maximum allowed CO2-output for companies producing more than 100,000 cars will drop over the next few years. Here's the limit for 2012: