[Michel Sinove]

A few weeks ago, my Fisker was in the shop for the replacement of the generator and an electrical (slave) module mounted on top (or near) it.
The generator got a broken weld, leaking all the cooling fluid and the module got fried.

I got the car back, everything was working well, until the next day.
Reaching 70 à 90 km/h a strange buzzing sound is coming from under the dashboard. When driving faster the frequency gets higher. The sound disappears around 130 à 150 km/h. The sound appears in stealth and sport mode. Turning of the audio or AC had no effect.
Any ideas what this could be?

You can listen to a recording of the sound. I had to place it on dropcanvas, since mp3-files can't be uploaded here.
http://dropcanvas.com/ove2u

 

[JCMorrill]

Wow. Are you sure a swarm of bees didn't move in?

 

[Eric Karma]

A few weeks ago, my Fisker was in the shop for the replacement of the generator and an electrical (slave) module mounted on top (or near) it.
The generator got a broken weld, leaking all the cooling fluid and the module got fried.

I got the car back, everything was working well, until the next day.
Reaching 70 à 90 km/h a strange buzzing sound is coming from under the dashboard. When driving faster the frequency gets higher. The sound disappears around 130 à 150 km/h. The sound appears in stealth and sport mode. Turning of the audio or AC had no effect.
Any ideas what this could be?

You can listen to a recording of the sound. I had to place it on dropcanvas, since mp3-files can't be uploaded here.
http://dropcanvas.com/ove2u

One major problem followed by yet another the very next day. The joys of owning a Fisker!

 

[Harleyguy]

I missed this post crazy they did such a large repair and didn't road test the car after the repair . It's hard to take a guess wha the noise is since so much of the car has to come apart in order to remove the generator .
Myself and Joe both have been very scuessfull in repairing a leaking traction motor generator is the same . I'm curious what the coolant leaked on and ruined nothing is near the generator.
Your noise should be easy to locate since the noise isn't hard to hear it's the noises that come and go are the hard ones . Have them run the car while its up in the air .

 

[FiskerPhilly]

Two things-
1) the Gen inverter likely was replaced due to overheating from the coolant loss(although typically it shuts down withe thermal limit fault to protect itself)
2) that sounds like a wind noise. Check the windshield seals particularly at the bottom since they had the cowl offf (the large plastic panel under the wipers)
the seal where the cowl panel meets the glass is notorious for lifting.

 

[steven]

One major problem followed by yet another the very next day. The joys of owning a Fisker!

Eric, didn't you sell your Fisker? If so, what did you replace it with?

 

[Harleyguy]

Eric, didn't you sell your Fisker? If so, what did you replace it with?

He won't tell

 

[SD Karma]

If he is not telling, it must be a gas guzzling beast like an original Hummer or he replaced it with an all electric leaf. Should have kept the Karma.

 

[Sigurd]

If you've sold your Karma, why would you still be active on this forum? It's like checking in on your ex-girlfriend. Driving by her house and/or work. Looking her up on Facebook. How about moving on? Isn't it a waste of time if you don't have a Karma or do not intend to get one?

 

[Stefan]

Check the windshield seals particularly at the bottom since they had the cowl offf (the large plastic panel under the wipers)
the seal where the cowl panel meets the glass is notorious for lifting.

How to you normally fix this? Is this part available?

It has been glued on my car, but it looks ugly.

 

[Michel Sinove]

Problem solved! Correct FiskerPhilly, it was a wind noise. A (rubber) seal around the tubes of the airconditioning/heating entering the dashboard came loose.
Fixed in 5 minutes. Thanks for all the help everyone!

 

[FiskerPhilly]

How to you normally fix this? Is this part available?

It has been glued on my car, but it looks ugly.

Kind of have to get creative on that one. The part wasn't available last I checked. I remove the cowl and use a strong tape like gorilla tape from the back side to tape it to cowl from underneath.

 

[Harleyguy]

Joe is correct we get creative I have a two part glue that Loctite makes it a two part crazy glue I use that to hold the seal to the cowling so it doesn't flip up when the seal hits the windshield .
Ones that are really out of shape I use painters tape and run it at the edge of the seal where it meets the windshield . I then lay a bead of black silicone under the seal when the glue gets tacky I push the seal into the silicone what comes out from under the seal the tape catches after its dry use a razor blade to trim .
Hopefully you get the idea

 

[Eric Karma]

Originally Posted by steven

Eric, didn't you sell your Fisker? If so, what did you replace it with?

He won't tell

Actually, I bought a Maserati Granturismo (similar to pic below).

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...90945352515593&thid=JN.tkgcNds5M9OIEyRByCOIOg

The Granturismo was the second most attractive car (behind the Fisker) available. It’s equally exotic and luxurious. While I do miss the feel and high tech nature of electric motoring, I don’t miss the nasty sounding 4 banger ICE. I’ve now got the passing power I need and the reliability I demand.

I feel as if I’ve broken up with a liberal, cantankerous and demanding LA ex-model that was always turning heads (the Karma), for an old fashioned sexy Italian girl from a well-regarded 100 year old family who's eager to please, sounds awesome, and always there when you need her (the Granturismo).

I wish the new Fisker well, but I can’t imagine them ever selling more than 2K of the new Karmas per year (at a huge company loss), or even that many smaller “Atlantics” per year, for that matter. It'll be a twice as high a hurdle to jump as Henrik had to. Even Tesla in all it's sales glory is still losing money. Good luck!

 

[Stefan]

Even Tesla in all it's sales glory is still losing money.

Is this fact or assumption?

 

[Eric Karma]

If he is not telling, it must be a gas guzzling beast like an original Hummer or he replaced it with an all electric leaf. Should have kept the Karma.

Actually I did own a Hummer for 3 years in the early 2000's. As you can see, lowering CO2 emissions is not a priority in my vehicle purchasing decision-making. Besides, the amount of pollution produced by almost 40% of the nation's electricy(from coal burning plants) is equal to, or greater than that would be saved by an EVER vehicle:

CBS/AP December 16, 2014, 10:43 AM

People who own all-electric cars may think they are helping the environment. But a new study finds that if their electrical power comes from coal, their vehicles actually make the air dirtier, worsening global warming.
"It's kind of hard to beat gasoline" for public and environmental health, said study co-author Julian Marshall, an engineering professor at the University of Minnesota. "A lot of the technologies that we think of as being clean ... are not better than gasoline."

The key is where the source of the electricity all-electric cars. If it comes from coal, the electric cars produce 3.6 times more soot and smog deaths than those powered by gas, because of the pollution made in generating the electricity, according to the study that is published Monday by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science (PNAS). They also are greater producers of heat-trapping carbon dioxide that worsens global warming, it found. Still, there's something to be said for the idea of helping foster a cleaner technology that will be better once it is connected to a cleaner grid, said study co-author Jason Hill, another University of Minnesota engineering professor. The study finds all-electric vehicles cause 86 percent more deaths from air pollution than do cars powered by regular gasoline. Coal produces 39 percent of the country's electricity, according to the Department of Energy. Hybrids and diesel engines are cleaner than gas, causing fewer air pollution deaths and spewing less heat-trapping gas.

 

[Eric Karma]

If you've sold your Karma, why would you still be active on this forum? It's like checking in on your ex-girlfriend. Driving by her house and/or work. Looking her up on Facebook. How about moving on? Isn't it a waste of time if you don't have a Karma or do not intend to get one?

There have been Fisker Buzz members who remained on the Buzz long after selling their Fisker: ? Dennis for one.

Re; the analogy: This ex-girlfriend (the Karma), unlike most would, has yet to fulfill certain prior financial obligations (unfulfilled warranty), now of only a moral nature. Her "family’s" clever bankruptcy eliminated any legal recourse. I'm still monitoring any possible progress towards that goal.

Actually, I would consider a new Karma following a 2 year post-release defect-free period, evidence of persisting strong company financial stability, and a $15K/car third party escrow account set up by Fisker to cover any unfulfilled warranty claims post-bankrupcy.

 

[Eric Karma]

Is this fact or assumption?

AUTOBLOG May 6th 2015 at 6:50PM

Tesla lost $154.2 million in 2015 Q1, delivered 10,045 Model S EVs
Tesla Motors Inc. on Wednesday reported a loss of $154.2 million in its first quarter. This happened as the California electric auto maker built 11,160 vehicles and delivered 10,045 EVs. Tesla also said the Model X remains on track for its first deliveries late in the third quarter.

Can't imagine Fisker ever selling more than 10K PER MONTH!

 

[Fabulist]

Originally Posted by steven

Eric, didn't you sell your Fisker? If so, what did you replace it with?



Actually, I bought a Maserati Granturismo (similar to pic below).

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...90945352515593&thid=JN.tkgcNds5M9OIEyRByCOIOg

The Granturismo was the second most attractive car (behind the Fisker) available. It’s equally exotic and luxurious. While I do miss the feel and high tech nature of electric motoring, I don’t miss the nasty sounding 4 banger ICE. I’ve now got the passing power I need and the reliability I demand.

I feel as if I’ve broken up with a liberal, cantankerous and demanding LA ex-model that was always turning heads (the Karma), for an old fashioned sexy Italian girl from a well-regarded 100 year old family who's eager to please, sounds awesome, and always there when you need her (the Granturismo).

I wish the new Fisker well, but I can’t imagine them ever selling more than 2K of the new Karmas per year (at a huge company loss), or even that many smaller “Atlantics” per year, for that matter. It'll be a twice as high a hurdle to jump as Henrik had to. Even Tesla in all it's sales glory is still losing money. Good luck!

@Erickarma, Sorry to see you go and hope that you will be happy with your choice. The Karma's styling is very evocative of Maserati styling and folks who don't know about the Karma often ask me if my car is a Maserati. So to stretch your analogy to the breaking point, you are marrying the slightly lower maintenance but still very pretty cousin of your model girlfriend. Hard to find fault wih that choice.

As others have said, you are always welcome here, Fisker or not. Should be a good way to pass the time when your at the Maserati dealer having your car fixed. JK, of course. Wishing you all the best.

 

[LonePalmBJ]

I like my Karma and I like driving electric but it's really hard to find fault with choosing a Maserati Granturismo. They are gorgeous, and sound glorious. Best of luck with it!