Fisker Buzz Forums banner
1 - 11 of 11 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
320 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I ran across this in my photo files and it reminded me how much I really wish I could get a Surf...

 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,662 Posts
Where is the prototype FA made? Does KA still own it?
 

·
Liked, but not well liked
Joined
·
1,172 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
854 Posts
Surf needed new power electronics to be practical. As it was shown, it had the huge pair of drive inverters interrupting the passage from the trunk to the folded down seats.
 

·
Liked, but not well liked
Joined
·
1,172 Posts
Surf needed new power electronics to be practical. As it was shown, it had the huge pair of drive inverters interrupting the passage from the trunk to the folded down seats.

Not new power electronics; need one rear motor as you would likely need two inverters to control two motors. Regardless, the Surf is pretty useful as it is, as many vehicles do not have flat load floors. The main issue for me (if i was to use it as a utility vehicle as I use my P100d) is trunk opening. It is quite small. You can fit a surprising amount of stuff in the Surf trunk (issue is what you can load into it- through that opening).

Doug, are you coming to the SF event? If you are, maybe we will bring up our 2012 Fisker Karma infused by Tesla prototype... basically the best of both worlds.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
854 Posts
Well I really mean the whole electric drivetrain, which I've previously commented about on this forum.




That big hump behind the seats are the drive inverters.

I do plan to come up next weekend. Would be cool to see.
 

·
Liked, but not well liked
Joined
·
1,172 Posts
that massive box built around the inverters is a bit much and not really required; but I guess for a quick build prototype (Surf is 1 of 1.... I think vin 119/12x or something like that ) that is what they did. Not really optimized for the surf; just a running proof of concept. Not really production intent. You can see from the close-out panel removed on the Karma that the inverters are not nearly that large (as exaggerated by the superficial box covering them) to require such an enclosure.

The big dual inverter box on the surf is about 3-4 inches higher then it needs to be (and was just a quick exercise to get a Surf running car based on existing Karma hardware). If they were to have put it into production with the dual JJE motors they could have easily placed the inverters in the other part of the "T" underneath the rear passenger seat or in the smugglers box which resides underneath the load floor (or in a smaller box in existing location). Not really a show stopper (with existing inverters) and with the dual motors- while preserving a relatively normal load floor. To fully optimize the Surf's body style they would have likely had to change the exterior further and the powertrain; as the rear bumper is the same as that on the Karma and has the same exterior load floor as the 2012 Karma.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
10 Posts
I too like the Fisket Surf..
It is owned by Karma included in the sale of Fisker.
I inquired about that car in a call to Karma and as of now there are no plans in place to produce the car.. I to think it to be unfortunate..
 
1 - 11 of 11 Posts
Top