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It's time to sell my 2012 Fisker Karma. I love it but I have three personal cars and I just got married and need to sell one to make room for hers!

2012 Fisker Karma EcoSport
$112,500 MSRP
Only 6,650 miles
Earth exterior, black monochrome interior (my favorite color combo)
Located in Seattle, WA., (sold by the now closed Fisker of Bellevue, WA).
VIN: Yh4k14aa5ca001654

$18,493.57 in receipts for recent 2015 updated parts and service.

This is the cleanest and best running Fisker you will find.

I just had the RDM Transaxle and dual electric motors replaced by Fisker with new 2015 parts.

I also had both software (510 and 520) and hardware updates performed at the time (oil, filter, new 12V battery, new front tires, new lug nuts, etc). The total was $18,493.57 and all receipts will be included with the car. I had this done at Pat's Garage in San Francisco, Pat can tell you about it if desired. (Side note: I drove back to Seattle up the coast from San Francisco and it was glorious).

My Fisker is in exquisite condition. I cannot find a single scratch on the entire car! No pets, food (not even groceries), kids, smokers, etc have been in the car. I don't think anyone has sat in the back seat since I tested them out at the dealership (the plastic covers are still on the kick plates!).

It has a beautiful Earth exterior and monochrome black interior. Features include solar panel curved roof, premium sound (bluetooth, iPhone/iPod/Android connection, component speakers, amp, subwoofers, etc), power everything, huge Brembo brakes, 22" rims, LED lights, two key fobs, stock 120 volt EVSE charging station (works perfectly), window sticker, books, etc.

The only non-factory additions I have made is a full Xpel clear wrap film. This film covers the entire front bumper, hood, fenders, A-pillars, mirrors, and partial rear fender. This $3,000 job will protect the paint from rock ships and scratches. I also tinted the windows and they look great. I de-badged the car and will include all badges/emblems).

Only negative: two wheels have very slight curb rash. Front tires are new, but rears will need to be replaced soon.

Please message me with any questions and your phone number. I would be happy to show you the car in person or Skype/FaceTime with you, take it to the mechanic of your choice for an inspection, or help arrange transportation.
 

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I already have one and had I not purchased it yours would have been a perfect fit. You are also very far from Ft Bragg area of NC.
I do not believe wife would be excited about two of these though I would be.
Let me know if trouble selling it and maybe after first of year can look further into expanding the stable.
Weather here was great but arena were car is parked is to wet in area were car would have to travel through to have driven it today though 70 degrees and sunny. we have had to much Washington State rain lately.
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Any time I see "for sale" sign on this forum, I wonder whether the seller is throwing in the towel and bolting for the door before the value of the car drops further, or that they had enough with Karma's quirks and need something less stressful. This also brings up an interesting topic - collector's value of the car. Assume that 20 years down the road Fisker Karma might go up in price - but most likely with milage not going over 30 000 miles. So many Karma's owners including myself are approaching this milage. Is it better to "barn" our Karmas, drive the **** out of them and then sell for 1/5th of the purchase price or sell now for 45-50 percent? Any thoughts on future value of our Karmas? And how will the electronics cope with 20 years of sitting someplace dark and lonely?
 

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First, I think it's worth noting that sales are not "rampant". Most of us don't treat the cars as "investments". They are objects of love & affection!
 

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Last time I heard (a few months ago) around 70% of the original owners still own their cars. That's much higher than I would have expected.
 

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In Germany on mobile.de there are 28 Karmas for sale - and prices are quite low. So at least Europeans are giving up on their Karma dream. Does anybody know how many Karmas were sold in Europe? 300-400 cars out of 2500 cars?
 

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Should send them back to North America can be converted for cheap to NA spec. Are the average prices significantly cheaper than NA variants?
 

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I checked the mobile.de site. Fiskers are actually selling for more there. A Karma with 6,600 miles (10,600 km) has an average listing price of 66,000 euros ($72,000). So importing one to the US would not save you money!
 

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Out of curiosity, which cars are you keeping to give the Karma the boot? Love the Earth exterior wish it was a monsoon or earth interior.
 

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Out of curiosity, which cars are you keeping to give the Karma the boot? Love the Earth exterior wish it was a monsoon or earth interior.
My daily driver is a LEAF (I have a 40 mile commute). I added Dynamat to the entire vehicle (literally removed every seat, carpet, and door panel to add it). So it now has almost no road noise.

My fun car is a Porsche 911. It gets most of my weekend use.

I pretty much buy a new car every year or two, so I've actually owned the Fisker for longer than any other car bar one.

My wife has a Range Rover which fits our big comfortable car needs.
 

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SOLD - no longer available. I will miss you guys, but I'll be sure to check back in on the forum and maybe I'll get another Karma in a few years.
 

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Any time I see "for sale" sign on this forum, I wonder whether the seller is throwing in the towel and bolting for the door before the value of the car drops further, or that they had enough with Karma's quirks and need something less stressful. This also brings up an interesting topic - collector's value of the car. Assume that 20 years down the road Fisker Karma might go up in price - but most likely with milage not going over 30 000 miles. So many Karma's owners including myself are approaching this milage. Is it better to "barn" our Karmas, drive the **** out of them and then sell for 1/5th of the purchase price or sell now for 45-50 percent? Any thoughts on future value of our Karmas? And how will the electronics cope with 20 years of sitting someplace dark and lonely?
No future value other than a nice looking used car unless it is a under 10k mi time capsule. I think most owners bought the car as transportation and are not "throwing in the towel" and it's part of the normal 4 year car buying cycle to move on to something new. As mentioned before the Karma has too many risk factors/quirks (like Lotus Esprit), mediocre performing, and is just is too complex as a rolling battery to bring an investor premium despite its low production and sculpted looks - especially when there are only a handful of nationwide service providers, which these cars need to stay in top shape (who wants to truck their primary transportation 500mi to get fixed). Low prices reflect more supply and LOW demand and that's just ECON 101.

Buyers expect their car to be totally reliable, available, and maintainable and all of those are answered with a "kinda" vs "absolutely" when it comes to the Karma. If the relaunch brings a healthier dealer network or more CSPs there may be increased interest, but not a mass influx.
 

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No future value other than a nice looking used car unless it is a under 10k mi time capsule. I think most owners bought the car as transportation and are not "throwing in the towel" and it's part of the normal 4 year car buying cycle to move on to something new. As mentioned before the Karma has too many risk factors/quirks (like Lotus Esprit), mediocre performing, and is just is too complex as a rolling battery to bring an investor premium despite its low production and sculpted looks - especially when there are only a handful of nationwide service providers, which these cars need to stay in top shape (who wants to truck their primary transportation 500mi to get fixed). Low prices reflect more supply and LOW demand and that's just ECON 101.

Buyers expect their car to be totally reliable, available, and maintainable and all of those are answered with a "kinda" vs "absolutely" when it comes to the Karma. If the relaunch brings a healthier dealer network or more CSPs there may be increased interest, but not a mass influx.
only time will tell !
 

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I checked the mobile.de site. Fiskers are actually selling for more there. A Karma with 6,600 miles (10,600 km) has an average listing price of 66,000 euros ($72,000). So importing one to the US would not save you money!
I can only speak for the UK but there will be 10% duty and 20% sales tax added to any car imported from the US - so prices will always be higher. The 10% duty should have been waived as long as the car was still < 3 years old as it was built in the EU.
 
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