[FiskerZee]

I must admit that I am in awe of this beautiful vehicle. I have owned mine a mere three days and have been stopped several times, people have taken photos, several people have struck up conversations with me, one guy even saying (before he read the badge) whether or not this was a new 4 door Lamborghini!!!! Another guy wanted my contact details just in case I wanted to sell it down the road some time in the future. I have never felt the way I do when I drive this car. I have an Aston Martin that does not give me the same feeling that the Karma does and although that too attracts attention and people love it, it does not attract as much attention as the karma. I hope Henrik Fisker reads these forums once in a while. He created a masterpiece. Sure the Tesla is nice but before Tesla owners and lovers attack me for what I am about to say, this is not my personal opinion but what almost everyone who stopped me for the past couple of days said to me:
The Tesla is inferior in the looks department...........I did not say this guys, the people did. This car is as my teenage daughter says: totally sick and worth every dollar I paid for it. Long Live Fisker!

 

[WATTGAS]

I think every owner can echo these stories. My personal feeling is if you took the styling and looks of the Karma exterior and interior, and put the technology of the Model S (battery, drivetrain, 4G connectivity, software and user interface), it would be a car for the ages. Regardless, I still get excited to drive this car EVERY TIME I grab the keys and head into the garage.

 

[JCMorrill]

Ditto!!

 

[FiskerZee]

I'd rather not get everything from the Tesla into the Fisker. Problem is it will become too popular like the Tesla which is now everywhere, and not so exclusive. We are truly lucky to drive this super exclusive super model on roads and highways full of ordinary housewives. Not that I have anything against housewives, but buy a supermodel is something else. Let the Tesla drivers enjoy their non exclusive rides. All the power to them, I say!.

 

[FiskerZee]

Also, what's the deal with that 27 Inch TV they have stuck in the middle of the Tesla dash? It may be practical and provide good info, but boy it is ugly and looks weird when you sit in the car. People want a 27 Inch TV in their cars? Yuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[shrowell]

I don't think it's an either/or debate - the Model S is a great car and the Karma is a beautiful car and they have different powertrain approaches. Some discussions strike me like Android/iPhone discussions; as if somehow we are at the pinnacle of technological evolution and someone who chooses one over the other is a "loser". This is fundamentally false and we all know that in 10 years time, we will look on today's technology (phones, cars, computers etc.) as decidedly old-fashioned. And we will all be driving hydrogen-fueled fuel-cell vehicles

So we should just enjoy what we have today (whatever you choose).

Peace out :fisker:

 

[FiskerZee]

I hear you and I agree.

 

[BillyO]

You'll probably be hearing, "How fast is it?" too. My reply is, "It's an economy car, not a sports car."

 

[PowerSource]

You'll probably be hearing, "How fast is it?" too. My reply is, "It's an economy car, not a sports car."

Well this is a self imposed "investor" restriction by Fisker due to some limitations in the components (sw and hw) they selected (outsourced various components of economy vehicles). We own a few Karma's and the quickest one (hand built by us) can keep pace with my Tesla P85+ (haven't tested a D as yet kind of pointless because of the weight). Obviously this isn't a pissing contest with Tesla but some of the powertrain can be optimized within the existing Karma platform; for my own personal curiosity I intend to explore these limits. At the Model S P85D price-point many can write a check and have a quick car and be smug about being green; optimization of a perceived "dead dog" is kinda of a cool genre to be in.

The whole idea of economy is kind of bs with the karma it uses heavy materials (except for the space-frame)- but the aluminum bits are not hollow formed or optimized they are solid alloy or steel bits- but i digress. The car is meant for performance, has an allure beauty and can be made oh so much better. The future of Karma is not with what it is but what is possible. We intend to make that a reality.

 

[Nin ja]

Well this is a self imposed "investor" restriction by Fisker due to some limitations in the components (sw and hw) they selected (outsourced various components of economy vehicles). We own a few Karma's and the quickest one (hand built by us) can keep pace with my Tesla P85+ (haven't tested a D as yet kind of pointless because of the weight). Obviously this isn't a pissing contest with Tesla but some of the powertrain can be optimized within the existing Karma platform; for my own personal curiosity I intend to explore these limits. At the Model S P85D price-point many can write a check and have a quick car and be smug about being green; optimization of a perceived "dead dog" is kinda of a cool genre to be in.

The whole idea of economy is kind of bs with the karma it uses heavy materials (except for the space-frame)- but the aluminum bits are not hollow formed or optimized they are solid alloy or steel bits- but i digress. The car is meant for performance, has an allure beauty and can be made oh so much better. The future of Karma is not with what it is but what is possible. We intend to make that a reality.

amen! well said and i applaud your efforts - signed up already��

 

[non sequitur]

amen! well said and i applaud your efforts - signed up already��

Me too - I guess there is a need to periodically check this "old board" along with thenewfisker site to stay up to date on things.

 

[JCMorrill]

You'll probably be hearing, "How fast is it?" too. My reply is, "It's an economy car, not a sports car."

I use the term "Luxury Car, not a Sports Car".

 

[FiskerZee]

Will be great to get the Karma updated and upgraded if there's a not too costly solution available!

 

[Nin ja]

Me too - I guess there is a need to periodically check this "old board" along with thenewfisker site to stay up to date on things.

i'm getting excited again !!! never had so much fun and excitement owing a car - I'm stoked and loving it!:heart:

 

[FiskerZee]

Be careful. My wife already thinks I am nuts falling in love with this car. Plus my neighbour came over yesterday and drove the car and said his S550 Merc that cost well over $100K does not even come close to the ride and feeling of the Karma. Now, he wants one and his wife was giving him **** for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[fiskerjim]

Be careful. My wife already thinks I am nuts falling in love with this car. Plus my neighbour came over yesterday and drove the car and said his S550 Merc that cost well over $100K does not even come close to the ride and feeling of the Karma. Now, he wants one and his wife was giving him **** for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My wife accepts my car addiction (appreciation) and is hesitant to go out by herself as so many "guys" come up and ask her challenging questions on the
Karma. Picture taking is the norm and blind spot trailing is something I have learned to pay attention to. I think Henrik refered to the Karma as a "Touring Sedan". Here in Niagara Wine country, it is the perfect ride. We are in a technical transition and if the future improvements to this car can be patched in, there will be some long term ownership.