are fisker producing them self now?
Fisker does not need QTWW. Better without them....Much better. Having said that QTWW would love have Fisker Nina business.kabalah70 said:I assume they mean that QTWW will not be producing the drivetrain for the Project Nina cars, which had been mentioned months ago. If Fisker has dumped Quantum altogether I am a bit worried, seeing as they were the partner to begin with.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2012/01/fisker-karma-hybrid-obama-waste-government-loan/1
I think you'll find the QTWW ownership in Fisker to be little or none. I prefer not to share, but I have done 2+ years worth of dd on my own. I think you're better off with AONE than QTWW as far as stock performance going forward. They have battery performance improving (i.e.. better than 50 mi). Soon you'll see 75 mi to 100mi and that will make a huge difference for Fisker Automotive and Chevy etc... Fisker will be just fine w/o QTWW.kabalah70 said:plugitin, that is a fairly bold statement considering Fisker Automotive would not exist without them. Care to share the reasons for your opinion?
QTWW has or had a financial stake in Fisker. The fact that they are out means less profit for them. I bought a &%*%load of QTWW stock on the hopes of Fisker taking off (to the tune of paying for almost 1.5 Karmas in capital losses, all unrealized at this point). Eventhough I would imagine QTWW still has an ownership stake in Fisker Automotive, its profits would have been more with motor production.
QTWW also have a company history of rabbiting off in different directions. This made me more (rather than less) doubtful about FIsker's longer-term prospects. If they have truly separated, that's probably a good thing.plugitin said:I think you'll find the QTWW ownership in Fisker to be little or none. I prefer not to share, but I have done 2+ years worth of dd on my own. I think you're better off with AONE than QTWW as far as stock performance going forward.
I'm confused (again). They have 2500 orders now and only 5% have cancelled?Wimbledon said:Here is the original and much more detailed article from Automotive News:
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120123/OEM01/301239965/1186
Kab, Quantum owns hardly any of the JV stake (ie Fisker Auto) - I remember them saying that in one of their filings (or one of Fisker's PP filings, can't remember which).kabalah70 said:plugitin, that is a fairly bold statement considering Fisker Automotive would not exist without them. Care to share the reasons for your opinion?
QTWW has or had a financial stake in Fisker. The fact that they are out means less profit for them. I bought a &%*%load of QTWW stock on the hopes of Fisker taking off (to the tune of paying for almost 1.5 Karmas in capital losses, all unrealized at this point). Eventhough I would imagine QTWW still has an ownership stake in Fisker Automotive, its profits would have been more with motor production.
I think in Fisker's peek orders last year, they we're up to around 3000 (give or take a couple of hundred). Once the EPA data was released (along with delays + neg DoE press), I believe orders feel by 'more' than 5%.BillyO said:I'm confused (again). They have 2500 orders now and only 5% have cancelled?Wimbledon said:Here is the original and much more detailed article from Automotive News:
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120123/OEM01/301239965/1186
BillyO
Given the Nina's projected price point, I doubt that the solar roof would be offered as standard, or even at all. On the Karma, it is more of stylistic element than a functional one anyway.k-sweise said:Well they have to still be supplying the solar roofs for the Nina, and there are a lot of those coming.
They better have the solar roofs on them. I think it is a signature piece / statement for the car. Stirs the emotions along with the overall look of the car. Trust me....Keep the Solar Roof Fisker. Heck...try to improve on it (if possible).Fabulist said:Given the Nina's projected price point, I doubt that the solar roof would be offered as standard, or even at all. On the Karma, it is more of stylistic element than a functional one anyway.k-sweise said:Well they have to still be supplying the solar roofs for the Nina, and there are a lot of those coming.
-- Fab.
As much as I like the solar roof's look, as a practical matter, it is not really a factor in the car's performance or range. It also probably adds a big chunk of weight to the car and complicates the safety issues related to rollover safety. It also prevents you from having more interesting roof options like sunroofs or even a panoramic roof. Given all of that, I think it may make more sense to provide a partial solar roof as an option but give the buyer the choice of what kind of roof they want on the car.plugitin said:They better have the solar roofs on them. I think it is a signature piece / statement for the car. Stirs the emotions along with the overall look of the car. Trust me....Keep the Solar Roof Fisker. Heck...try to improve on it (if possible).Fabulist said:Given the Nina's projected price point, I doubt that the solar roof would be offered as standard, or even at all. On the Karma, it is more of stylistic element than a functional one anyway.k-sweise said:Well they have to still be supplying the solar roofs for the Nina, and there are a lot of those coming.
-- Fab.
In the least...keep it as an option. The cost should be much lower considering they are targeting 100k Project Nina vehicles. They need the cost to be around $3k ea. I'm psyched about the BMW engines. I really think this Nina line is going to be a monster success for Fisker, if they can just get their finances in order.kabalah70 said:I thought it would be an option because the Prius had it as an option for 2011, but they have nixed it for 2012, so no competition on that front.
The one thing Fisker the company is good at is car design and I am sure they will find a way to incorporate the look into the roof but also provide new and more interesting options. For example, just having the solar cells arrayed around the perimeter of the roof with the center available for a sunroof would be a great compromise. Another option would be to put the solar cells on the boot lid instead of the roof.plugitin said:In the least...keep it as an option. The cost should be much lower considering they are targeting 100k Project Nina vehicles. They need the cost to be around $3k ea. I'm psyched about the BMW engines. I really think this Nina line is going to be a monster success for Fisker, if they can just get their finances in order.kabalah70 said:I thought it would be an option because the Prius had it as an option for 2011, but they have nixed it for 2012, so no competition on that front.