I would personally thank the owners of the Karma on how you keep a positive out look on the car . I can tell you first hand things ARE getting better with the car and sales are starting to pick up . I know there is some good improvements on the way and I know it hasn't been easy for the owners to deal with some of the glitches the car has and had . I speak to other technicians around the country and everyone I've spoken to also agree it's been a hard few months but things are getting better . I also heard from others that some owners have as much as 25,000 miles all ready on the car and haven't had any other problems except for the ones that get posted here . Not only is my job on the line here but all the dealers that have spent millions on this venture . Having positive feedback from owners is the highest priority for myself and the dealers around the country .