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I liked the iPad comment - though surely he forgot about the Model S.
 

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I liked his comment about Brian's video being quite old. Funny thing is that in that long time company was not able to fix the responsivness of command center (marginal does not count), stats on solar panel use or ackward design of scrolling through menu pages. I wonder what all those Fisker employees are doing if no cars are being produced. Must have planty of time on their hands. Or they already abandoned further improvement of Karma and are working on updating their resumes.
 

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I believe some of the employees are working on a software update for the command center to be released sometime in March. Last time I was at a Fisker event the update was supposed to be fairly substantial.
 

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I liked the iPad comment - though surely he forgot about the Model S.
Let's not forget that when the Karma was being spec'd out in 2007-2008, the Ipad was still two years away from being unveiled and the Iphone 1 had just come out, and the touchscreen-only control system was never used in any car before that. To this day, a lot of very expensive car's control system rely on joysticks rather than screen touch to communicate with the software. The lead time for this kind of technology is pretty long and the complexity of the real-time systems in a car require a different approach than a tablet that can freeze without anyone getting killed.

Of course, there will be no excuse if the information system in the Atlantic is the same as the Karma, but I am inclined to cut them a break on the Karma. They did actually tried to push the leading edge with the Karma, it was just that the edge moved quite a bit from when they designed the Karma until when it came out.
 

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I purchased revised Porsche Cayenne Turbo more than two years ago and their touch display works without any problems. Ipad music interface is by far superior to what is in Fisker Karma. I believe such touch display was in Panamera even longer than 2 years. Plenty of time to get inspired. So I am afraid I am not so generous with slack as Fabulist.
 

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The Model S is not 100% like an iPad, sure it has pinch zoom etc but the responsiveness sometimes is spotty. The graphics and google maps are pretty cool. Being able to see the traffic is awesome. There are claims of apps being available but there has not been a single third party app developed.

Semi OT question: On the Karma if you have a paired iPhone can you push the "Talk" button on the steering wheel and ping Siri? You can't do this on the Model S as yet. I find the intelligence of my phone to be far superior to the Model S or any car that I have owned.

I like the haptic feedback of the Karma command center. Sure it is a bit slow but it looks cool in retro sort of way. IMO the Karma's cluster looks better than the Model S' cluster. 10-15 years from now, I think you will look back at both of these cars and see one vehicle has aged well and still looks good and the other one looks severely dated (both inside and out).
 

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I purchased revised Porsche Cayenne Turbo more than two years ago and their touch display works without any problems. Ipad music interface is by far superior to what is in Fisker Karma. I believe such touch display was in Panamera even longer than 2 years. Plenty of time to get inspired. So I am afraid I am not so generous with slack as Fabulist.
My 2006 VW GLI had a touch screen as well. Loved it.
 

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I don't see a valid discussion here. During development, you have plenty of time to validate your design and initiate friendly customer trials.
If you are not able to make it fancy, keep it simple.... but never deliver crap!



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I don't see a valid discussion here. During development, you have plenty of time to validate your design and initiate friendly customer trials.
If you are not able to make it fancy, keep it simple.... but never deliver crap!



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I think that's a valid statement if you are an existing OEM with many sources of revenue. Maybe not so much if it is your first product plagued with delays & limited resources.
 
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