I believe the hardware itself is a bit different, so no.
Navigation Upgrade
I have a Eco Standard, so I dont have Navigation, which is no big deal since it sounds like the Google maps I can getbon my phone/ipad is better than what is in the Fisker anyway. But, does anyone know if Navigation can be added to the programming of the Standard's My dealer said no, but........
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I drove an Eco-standard as a loaner for a week and noticed that it displayed the compass heading in the dash display just like the Eco Sport. The compass heading appears to be calculated using the GPS position because it is blanked out until the NAV system acquires enough satellites to calculate your current position. If the car had a compass sensor, the heading would always be displayed regardless of the GPS system status. So I think that, at the very least, the basic receiver and software to calculate the current position is included in the Eco Standard, even if the map display and routing software is absent. Unless the hardware difference is on the display and routing side, it should be possible to upgrade the command center with the NAV software since the satellite receiver and position calculation software appears to be present in the Eco Standards.I believe the hardware itself is a bit different, so no.
I've never seen an Eco Standard...
How does the ,CUI' place look like?
Is it ready to take standard car audio units?
Stefan
German Karma Forum
www.karma-forum.de
How does the ,CUI' place look like?
Is it ready to take standard car audio units?
Stefan
German Karma Forum
www.karma-forum.de
To be fair, my experience with Standards is little to none. The OC dealer just doesn't have any, so I don't run into them. Take this explanation as an educated guess, so to speak.
The unit that has the navigation software in it is the same unit that has the radio, satellite radio, usb audio, reverse camera and bluetooth functions. When the software is updated in the unit, it's updated as a whole. There isn't a set of options for us to choose which parts of it get updated, so it's not as if the dealer can turn off navigation updating for Standard models. Now, how does it know it's a Standard? Possibly by the VIN. Possibly by a signal from the unit itself. I just don't know.
I seem to also remember hearing at some point that the radio units part # changes depending on if it's a standard or not. The obvious question here is if the unit itself is changed out, would the user get navigation? Again, I'm not sure. There's additional wiring for the navigation portion, so it would depend on whether or not that wiring actually exists in the car. The lack of a reverse camera would also make me wonder what would happen if a unit expecting one to be there can't find one.
If I had a Standard here to look at, I could make a much more informed answer.
The unit that has the navigation software in it is the same unit that has the radio, satellite radio, usb audio, reverse camera and bluetooth functions. When the software is updated in the unit, it's updated as a whole. There isn't a set of options for us to choose which parts of it get updated, so it's not as if the dealer can turn off navigation updating for Standard models. Now, how does it know it's a Standard? Possibly by the VIN. Possibly by a signal from the unit itself. I just don't know.
I seem to also remember hearing at some point that the radio units part # changes depending on if it's a standard or not. The obvious question here is if the unit itself is changed out, would the user get navigation? Again, I'm not sure. There's additional wiring for the navigation portion, so it would depend on whether or not that wiring actually exists in the car. The lack of a reverse camera would also make me wonder what would happen if a unit expecting one to be there can't find one.
If I had a Standard here to look at, I could make a much more informed answer.
The car does not have the back up camera either. The Command center has the button for the Naviagtion but when you press it, it basically tells you it doesnt exist. The display does show NSEW.
Since the difference between the 3 models seems to be just on paint color and interior leather options, the only other option is the rear camera, upgraded speakers, and navigation being included on the chic and sport models, I had a hunch that given the same platform for the 3 cars, the basic stuff needed for the Nav system was already installed, and was just lacking the software.
Knowing less that 2,000 cars were made, I wonder how carefully the cars were 'built to order' Who knows, maybe I have an eco sport in hiding, with Eclipse paint and black interior. I dont really care, since I like the triple black anyway, and I can still turn my head to see what is behind me when I back up, and I am willing to read street signs.
Since the difference between the 3 models seems to be just on paint color and interior leather options, the only other option is the rear camera, upgraded speakers, and navigation being included on the chic and sport models, I had a hunch that given the same platform for the 3 cars, the basic stuff needed for the Nav system was already installed, and was just lacking the software.
Knowing less that 2,000 cars were made, I wonder how carefully the cars were 'built to order' Who knows, maybe I have an eco sport in hiding, with Eclipse paint and black interior. I dont really care, since I like the triple black anyway, and I can still turn my head to see what is behind me when I back up, and I am willing to read street signs.
Everything looks exactly the same. The only difference is that there is no Nav screen option on the CUI and there is no backup camera image when you put the car in Reverse.I've never seen an Eco Standard...
How does the ,CUI' place look like?
Is it ready to take standard car audio units?
Stefan
German Karma Forum
www.karma-forum.de
Do you have the lady nagging about your speed at certain areas?
Actually, I am asking the Eco-standard owner about this question. If the Nav lady knows your location, it probably has GPS capability.Do you have the lady nagging about your speed at certain areas?
I've compared Google Maps, Waze and the iPhone 5's native GPS with the Fisker's EcoSport Nav system.
The Apple app is pretty lame. It once said, "Now park your car and walk." I'm not kidding.
Google Maps is dependable and Waze is very cool with its almost real-time traffic and hazard info. But the Fisker's GPS has been great because there are times when Waze hasn't recognized a destination like a well-known museum. The Fisker's "turn now" prompts have been right on. I give it 4 out of 5 stars.
The Apple app is pretty lame. It once said, "Now park your car and walk." I'm not kidding.
Google Maps is dependable and Waze is very cool with its almost real-time traffic and hazard info. But the Fisker's GPS has been great because there are times when Waze hasn't recognized a destination like a well-known museum. The Fisker's "turn now" prompts have been right on. I give it 4 out of 5 stars.
Try the Navigon app in App Store for IPhone5. It costs but is really good!
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I never have had a 'nav lady' tell me anything about my speed, except when I have my wife as a passenger....
Most dealers turn it off.I never have had a 'nav lady' tell me anything about my speed, except when I have my wife as a passenger....
Arch, to answer your original question. It is possible to install the navigation and backup camera on the standard, but it requires change of the module (don't ask me which one). If you have the nav installed without the backup camera, you will see a blue screen each time you backup.
Do any of the tech's that particpate in this forum know which module would apply to the nav system and back up camera?
While I cant go into specifics I assure you theres no module that needs to be replaced in order to enable navigation in your vehicle.
If the module can just be reflashed with the navigation software, that's great. I wonder if the backup camera must be installed to enable everything then. Again, I just don't have any experience with the Standard level to be sure. If anyone has one in California, maybe we can work out a time and do some testing.
Thanks for this information. If Nav is essentially built in to all of the units, and simply enabled in some models and not in the Standard, Fisker probably won't want to help out since that means all of the Eco Sport and Chic models paid a whole lot extra for something that is hiding away in the 'base' model.
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