[Jan]

My navigation does not startup, it shows the boot screen but does not complete. The direction indicator on the dashboard also does not show anything either.

I suspect there is a problem with one or more of the GPS receivers, so far I understood that there are 2 in the sideview mirrors and one in the trunk lid. I checked some of the connections and they seem to be fine.

Has anyone experienced this before and if it was fixed, what was causing the problem?

Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome....

 

[Harleyguy]

Need to explain your problem a little better .
Does the radio work ?
Do,you get the main screen that has the agree button ?
Or is the whole command center not working you can't access anything ?

 

[marswill]

My navigation does not startup, it shows the boot screen but does not complete. The direction indicator on the dashboard also does not show anything either.

I suspect there is a problem with one or more of the GPS receivers, so far I understood that there are 2 in the sideview mirrors and one in the trunk lid. I checked some of the connections and they seem to be fine.

Has anyone experienced this before and if it was fixed, what was causing the problem?

Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome....

I had this happen to me last week. A soft reboot, i.e., wait 2 minutes for the PRNDL to go dark, fixed the issue. All's been fine since.

 

[ffcars]

I had this happen to me last week. A soft reboot, i.e., wait 2 minutes for the PRNDL to go dark, fixed the issue. All's been fine since.

Ditto. Happened to my wife last week. A few soft reboots and it ws good to go. This happens once in 100 starts. Yes, we have the latest software.

Bill

 

[8AVGMPG]

My navigation does not startup, it shows the boot screen but does not complete. The direction indicator on the dashboard also does not show anything either.

I suspect there is a problem with one or more of the GPS receivers, so far I understood that there are 2 in the sideview mirrors and one in the trunk lid. I checked some of the connections and they seem to be fine.

Has anyone experienced this before and if it was fixed, what was causing the problem?

Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome....

The only GPS antenna is located in the trunk lid. The antennas in the mirrors are for AM/FM and FM2.

I assume your not in a parking structure or other type of building that would block the GPS signal? It can take a few minutes for it to locate once it has reception.

 

[Jan]

The radio works, the command center also works except for the navigation, it keeps showing the rotating "working" signal.

I have done some more investigating, and the cable of the receiver in the left mirror is damaged, so I suspect that this is the problem. Or are the receivers in the mirrors indeed for AM/FM only and not for the GPS, like 8AVGMPG indicated? In that case, I need to investigate further.

Thanks,

 

[Harleyguy]

Your going to need a new CIU I had a few with the same problem entered up a CIU to confirm it I swapped out another CIU from a stock car .Has the Nav ever worked ?

 

[Jan]

Thank you Harleyguy, just swapped the GPS receiver in the trunk lid with my other car without result.

I have not seen the Nav working on this car, just got it the week.

Forgive my ignorance, what is a CIU?

 

[Harleyguy]

Thank you Harleyguy, just swapped the GPS receiver in the trunk lid with my other car without result.

I have not seen the Nav working on this car, just got it the week.

Forgive my ignorance, what is a CIU?

Its the unit controls the command center the radio and the nav and the AC .Its behind the glove box actually very easy to remove

 

[Jan]

OK I will check this. Could be the connection of the GPS signal cable to the CIU.

 

[Harleyguy]

OK I will check this. Could be the connection of the GPS signal cable to the CIU.

I hate to say so but I don't think so i've seen this problem before and it was a bad CIU .The glove box has to be removed in order to check the connections .

 

[Harleyguy]

Tell the dealer to swap the CIU out of one they have in stock if you still have a dealer to go too . If the car is that new and didn't work from the day it was delivered they should do that warranty or not .I would for sure you own two Karma's

 

[SoCalGuy]

My navigation does not startup, it shows the boot screen but does not complete. The direction indicator on the dashboard also does not show anything either.

I suspect there is a problem with one or more of the GPS receivers, so far I understood that there are 2 in the sideview mirrors and one in the trunk lid. I checked some of the connections and they seem to be fine.

Has anyone experienced this before and if it was fixed, what was causing the problem?

Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome....

Curious - why do you own two IDENTICAL Karmas?

 

[8AVGMPG]

Tell the dealer to swap the CIU out of one they have in stock if you still have a dealer to go too . If the car is that new and didn't work from the day it was delivered they should do that warranty or not .I would for sure you own two Karma's

There are a couple of other things to check before replacing the CIU is warranted.

1) On the touch screen, press & hold the SYSTEM button for ~8 seconds and release. A new menu should pop up showing software versions: HOST NAV VIP.

If the "NAV" version shows 0.00 then your dealer needs to reflash the NAV to the CIU.

2) There are multiple inline coaxial (FAKRA) connectors between the CIU & GPS antenna. Valmet sucks at connecting these and often damaged them.

Some of the locations are: Behind the passenger side lower kick panel, underneath the center console, behind the rear seat, and underneath the trunk lid (there is one about 3-4 ft after the antenna) and at the CIU itself). It should be a blue FAKRA connector and will be separate from the main wiring harnesses. You'll want to look for a bent pin...usually straightening them out will fix it (if bent).

 

[Karma 2012]

Some of the locations are: Behind the passenger side lower kick panel, underneath the center console, behind the rear seat, and underneath the trunk lid (there is one about 3-4 ft after the antenna) and at the CIU itself). It should be a blue FAKRA connector and will be separate from the main wiring harnesses. You'll want to look for a bent pin...usually straightening them out will fix it (if bent).

This is where the service manual or PDF would coming handy for some basic troubleshoot. Does anyone have a PDF that can be shared with the owners if the owners sign a waiver of injury liability, especially regarding the high voltage part of the car?

 

[Jan]

Harleyguy, you were right, I swapped the unit from my other car, and it is working now!

Challenge that remains is to get a replacement unit for the CIU.

 

[Jan]

Curious - why do you own two IDENTICAL Karmas?

We are using them to train first responders, the fact that the cars are identical is just coincidence. We got them from Fisker Germany and they are both used demo cars.

 

[Jan]

There are a couple of other things to check before replacing the CIU is warranted.

1) On the touch screen, press & hold the SYSTEM button for ~8 seconds and release. A new menu should pop up showing software versions: HOST NAV VIP.

If the "NAV" version shows 0.00 then your dealer needs to reflash the NAV to the CIU.

2) There are multiple inline coaxial (FAKRA) connectors between the CIU & GPS antenna. Valmet sucks at connecting these and often damaged them.

Some of the locations are: Behind the passenger side lower kick panel, underneath the center console, behind the rear seat, and underneath the trunk lid (there is one about 3-4 ft after the antenna) and at the CIU itself). It should be a blue FAKRA connector and will be separate from the main wiring harnesses. You'll want to look for a bent pin...usually straightening them out will fix it (if bent).

Thank you, I checked all connections and they are fine. After swapping the CIU with our other car it worked. I assumed the CIU was defect however after reading your post I will check the NAV version now, maybe it is just a matter of reflashing the NAV.

 

[Jan]

Thank you, I checked all connections and they are fine. After swapping the CIU with our other car it worked. I assumed the CIU was defect however after reading your post I will check the NAV version now, maybe it is just a matter of reflashing the NAV.

The NAV version is indeed 00.00.00! So I will contact the dealer to see if they can flash the NAV software to get it fixed. Thanks!

 

[EVer1]

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