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Crap, I bought another ELR just last week ,but would have prefered an SUV. Nice!

BTW, that makes 5 plug-ins. 2 ELRs, 2 C-Maxes, and of course, 1 Fisker. But all proudly American Companies, and 4 built in the USA.
 

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The gas only Alfa Stelvio seems more attractive if you actually want to enjoy your drive..
will be using as a shop vehicle... can haul a bunch of stuff in the back and get carpool access

The turning radius on the outlander seems better than the stelvio but really not an option at this price point (less than 30k after fed/state rebate)

Features and warranty are also much better than base stelvio 10year/100k


Can beat crap out of it for less than 30k. Will see what happens, but for industrial commuter use seems like better deal than anything else (most have worse warranty and no carpool/plug in/fast charge capability). Get AWD plus green sticker plus 87 gas plus long warranty for less than 30k. Seemed like no brainer. Time will tell

Funny enough all dealers in So Cal that we have dealt with are now asking 4-5k over MSRP!!! for a mitsubishi... nuts
 

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Possibly dumb question, what happened to range extenders like that BMW (i3?) had. It seems it'd be more efficient to just put a small, high efficiency engine in there that'll charge the battery rather than having it do double duty charging the battery and powering the car. Obviously bev is better, but it'd be a somewhat decent stopgap measure, wouldn't it?
 
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