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I have my mirrors set to automatically fold up and they had been working fine. Tonight my wife and I were heading out to dinner and decided to take the Karma.
Well the mirrors decided to stay folded up tight once I started the car and nothing I've done has got them to go back to the normal position. Kind of frustrating to say the least. I even tried unpluging the cable under the hood to force a reboot of the computer. Does anyone have any ideas?

I guess you guys might want to disable the auto fold feature if you enabled it!
 

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Had this problem with my Audi too, had to get it repaired. Also had to get both xenon bulbs replaced within three months.

Every car, even expensive ones, is bound to have some problems. And the chances of a problem in a Fisker are simply higher because it is a new car that is not an evolution of an older model, because it comes from a new company and because it has so much technology inside. We should be expecting these little, annoying malfunctions; it goes with the turf (I am not talking about Brian's problems, there must be a more major problem there). It's the price we pay for being the first to drive these cars and getting all these thousands of admiring looks on the street.

But I do hope you can get it fixed soon.
 

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I had the opposite problem where my mirrors stopped auto folding. After toggling the setting a few time it started to work again.
 

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brian said:
I had the opposite problem where my mirrors stopped auto folding. After toggling the setting a few time it started to work again.
I've tried toggling the settings, factory default reset, etc... with no luck. Probably what makes it most frustrating is the car had been at the dealers for 3 days getting the check engine fault reset, the window washer tank fault reset, and some other items looked at. Driving it home from the dealer all was great. Oh well...
 

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ejo3rd said:
brian said:
I had the opposite problem where my mirrors stopped auto folding. After toggling the setting a few time it started to work again.
I've tried toggling the settings, factory default reset, etc... with no luck. Probably what makes it most frustrating is the car had been at the dealers for 3 days getting the check engine fault reset, the window washer tank fault reset, and some other items looked at. Driving it home from the dealer all was great. Oh well...
I know that with my other cars, if the mirrors get bumped, the auto fold and unfold stops functioning until the mirrors are moved manually back to the stop point. With the ford, I sometimes have to open and close the mirrors manually to get them to work.
 

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karma1 said:
ejo3rd said:
brian said:
I had the opposite problem where my mirrors stopped auto folding. After toggling the setting a few time it started to work again.
I've tried toggling the settings, factory default reset, etc... with no luck. Probably what makes it most frustrating is the car had been at the dealers for 3 days getting the check engine fault reset, the window washer tank fault reset, and some other items looked at. Driving it home from the dealer all was great. Oh well...
I know that with my other cars, if the mirrors get bumped, the auto fold and unfold stops functioning until the mirrors are moved manually back to the stop point. With the ford, I sometimes have to open and close the mirrors manually to get them to work.
Thanks for the idea. I went and tried it but still no luck. I'll be dropping it off at the dealer tomorrow.
 

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Had the same problem on the passenger side. They have ordered a new mirror motor for me. Gosh I hope this stuff doesn't keep happening...
 

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Good Karma said:
Had the same problem on the passenger side. They have ordered a new mirror motor for me. Gosh I hope this stuff doesn't keep happening...
Oh man - the motor needs to be replaced? Not just a software issue? That's not sounding good...
 

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Dutch said:
Remember, these kind of non-visible items come from the GM-parts bin.
Even so, you don't hear about a lot of GM cars having folding mirror problems, or any car for that matter.

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SoCalGuy said:
Good Karma said:
Had the same problem on the passenger side. They have ordered a new mirror motor for me. Gosh I hope this stuff doesn't keep happening...
Oh man - the motor needs to be replaced? Not just a software issue? That's not sounding good...
It could still be a software issue in that the software fails to stop the motor when the mirror is fully closed or fully deployed and ends up burning the motor out. On the other hand, it could just be a crappy mirror motor as @Dutch suggested.

-- Fab.
 

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kabalah70 said:
Motor should have limit switches built into it I would hope.
True, but judging by things like interior lights which are controlled by software in this car, it is not unreasonable to suspect that the limit switches are simply sensor inputs that the software reads and reacts to, rather than hardwired controls. In any case, this is just speculation. @Dutch's explanation is probably the more reasonable: crappy GM motors.

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I'll give you the official reason as soon as they tell me...
 

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FYI. I just picked up my new Karma last week. The salesman informed me "DO NOT SET MIRRORS TO AUTO COLLAPSE... it will strip the gears on your mirror. This is a known issue and a software upgrade to fix this will be coming soon".

Unfortunately, he did not disabled auto-collapse, and I also have a stripped right side mirror.
 

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That's what you call a serious bug when a software problem actually breaks hardware. But wasn't that mirror issue resolved with the last software update?
 

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doug said:
That's what you call a serious bug when a software problem actually breaks hardware. But wasn't that mirror issue resolved with the last software update?
No, I was told after 6.15 was installed that I should continue to avoid using the auto-fold feature...
 

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I would have thought the "breaks hardware" aspect would make it high priority. At least they could have disabled the feature as a stopgap measure.
 

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doug said:
I would have thought the "breaks hardware" aspect would make it high priority. At least they could have disabled the feature as a stopgap measure.
Sounds like the infamous Stuxnet virus. Maybe I should load McAfee AV on the command center and do a full scan.
 

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doug said:
I would have thought the "breaks hardware" aspect would make it high priority. At least they could have disabled the feature as a stopgap measure.
Sounds like the infamous Stuxnet virus. Maybe I should load McAfee AV on the command center and do a full scan.
The prospect of software from a malicious third party that can break your car (perhaps while you're driving it) is certainly a very scary notion. Cars of the future may indeed require some malware protection.

For now though, sounds like Fisker needs protection from their own software.
 

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doug said:
Fabulist said:
doug said:
I would have thought the "breaks hardware" aspect would make it high priority. At least they could have disabled the feature as a stopgap measure.
Sounds like the infamous Stuxnet virus. Maybe I should load McAfee AV on the command center and do a full scan.
The prospect of software from a malicious third party that can break your car (perhaps while you're driving it) is certainly a very scary prospect. Cars of the future may indeed require some malware protection.

For now though, sounds like Fisker needs protection from their own software.
I am sure that's the next security scare we will have to deal with after personal computers, smart phones, tablets, and connected watches. At the moment, the Fisker is probably pretty safe since it has no connectivity other than direct USB connection but if they go the Tesla route and make the car a web-connected appliance, we will have to deal with that too.

At the moment though, it's not a bug or a virus, it is an undocumented feature. :D
 
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