[non sequitur]

Will consider all colors and options (except black).
I've found $57K new, so want to see if there is a better prospect in the secondary market.
Proximity to Miami a plus. Local dealer still has 5, but seems to be the last place in the USA to expect top dollar - good luck with that!
Send me a PM if interested.

 

[Harleyguy]

$57,000 new no mileage isn't a bad price might want to consider that if nothing else comes along . Also if the Vin# is a late number even better

 

[smoothoperator]

off lease only had an Eco Chic earth/earth for 63k. I think they are in Miami. Car had never been registered from what I could tell.

 

[non sequitur]

The $58k reflects the $7500 tax credit, and there are miles on it (but no title), but I'm still in search of something that starts in the mid-high $50s, not mid $60s.

Apparently the Carmax near me took one in 2 weeks ago and sold it at dealer auction! Don't know the price, but what a miss - even in the color I'd want most (white).

 

[NJFISKERGUY]

57k no mileage with tax credit. thats a great deal......

 

[smoothoperator]

The $58k reflects the $7500 tax credit, and there are miles on it (but no title), but I'm still in search of something that starts in the mid-high $50s, not mid $60s.

Apparently the Carmax near me took one in 2 weeks ago and sold it at dealer auction! Don't know the price, but what a miss - even in the color I'd want most (white).

This one has never been registered, so still eligible for the $7500

http://www.offleaseonly.com/used-car/Fisker-Karma-EcoChic-Hybrid-YH4K16AA9CA001474.htm

This was a Ted Britt new car auction vehicle bought by Off Lease in Manheim, PA. There is a person on here from North Carolina who bought the Laguna Blue one. That one was also a new Ted Britt car sent to auction and should be eligible for the $7500.

 

[NJFISKERGUY]

Smoothoperator how does that work they call the car used? if it was leased it had to be registered right? OR maybe im missing something?

 

[smoothoperator]

My understanding is that this car has never been sold so chances are it is still eligible for the $7500 new car rebate. When I pulled the Carfax before it did not show that last portion so things may have changed and the dealer may have tried to register the vehicle to get the rebate.

 

[non sequitur]

This one has never been registered, so still eligible for the $7500

http://www.offleaseonly.com/used-car/Fisker-Karma-EcoChic-Hybrid-YH4K16AA9CA001474.htm

This was a Ted Britt new car auction vehicle bought by Off Lease in Manheim, PA. There is a person on here from North Carolina who bought the Laguna Blue one. That one was also a new Ted Britt car sent to auction and should be eligible for the $7500.

Just got off the phone with Bob Harris at offleaseonly, and he confirmed that it was titled previously and that as a used car dealership they could never deliver a title saying "new".
If you are familiar with the auction where this was sold, do you know what it sold for?
Did the person who bought the Laguna blue one get title as a "new" car (may be different in NC than FL?). I guess we won't know for sure until that person files their 2013 tax return.

 

[NJFISKERGUY]

Show me the CAR FAX!!!!

I agree with you that the dealer might have gotten the Tax Credit. If I was a dealer I would take all the Tax Credits on the cars that are left. Not sure if they can do that but if it was me I would try.

 

[non sequitur]

Show me the CAR FAX!!!!

I agree with you that the dealer might have gotten the Tax Credit. If I was a dealer I would take all the Tax Credits on the cars that are left. Not sure if they can do that but if it was me I would try.

Smoothoperator pasted it 2 posts up - it didn't show up on my screen at first, but can you see it?

The sad thing is I'm certain NOBODY claimed the tax credit on this car - it just went to waste. Still a good deal at $64K, but there seem to be a couple of dealers in the same price range (if I can seal the deal), WITH the tax credit (meaning mid-$50s). Also the offleaseonly one is ecochic, and wife wants the leather.

 

[Sandy Eggo]

Show me the CAR FAX!!!!

I agree with you that the dealer might have gotten the Tax Credit. If I was a dealer I would take all the Tax Credits on the cars that are left. Not sure if they can do that but if it was me I would try.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure (but not certain) that when the Dealers liquidate their stock through an outlet like Manheim Auction, they have to be "used cars". So, the dealer registers the car and spoils any chance of the end consumer getting the Fed Tax Credit.

 

[NJFISKERGUY]

The Show me the Car FAX.. was a joke. i think maybe the leasing company might have used it. Again i'm not sure if they can.

 

[smoothoperator]

In many states a vehicle is considered to be new until it is titled to a corporation, individual etc. Dlr, Mfg, dst etc transfers of ownership do not count as "titled owners." YMMV not sure how it works in other states.

I purchased another vehicle once that was eligible for a tax rebate that had 2k miles on it oand it had never been sold to a non-dealer. I was able to procure the tax credit without hassle.

 

[scurry1074]

The fact that one claims a particular tax credit on his or her tax return and receives the refund doesn't mean that the person qualified for the credit. Most people think that since the IRS sent me the refund it must mean that I qualified for it or they wouldn't have sent it.

The IRS does not review every single tax return to determine if you qualified for the tax credits you claimed.

Many people claim erroneous tax credits every year and receive the refunds.

The IRS sent out more than $50 billion in erroneous tax refunds for the $8000 first-time homebuyer credit. They didn't discover this into they cross reference with the Social Security Administration and found that some of these first-time homebuyers were four years old.

Inmates in prison filed tax returns and receive credit for the first time home buyer credits. When the plug-in electric vehicle credit was first announced the IRS start receiving tax returns for the credit before any plug-in electric vehicles were even produced.

Samuel

 

[smoothoperator]

The fact that one claims a particular tax credit on his or her tax return and receives the refund doesn't mean that the person qualified for the credit. Most people think that since the IRS sent me the refund it must mean that I qualified for it or they wouldn't have sent it.

The IRS does not review every single tax return to determine if you qualified for the tax credits you claimed.

Many people claim erroneous tax credits every year and receive the refunds.

The IRS sent out more than $50 billion in erroneous tax refunds for the $8000 first-time homebuyer credit. They didn't discover this into they cross reference with the Social Security Administration and found that some of these first-time homebuyers were four years old.

Inmates in prison filed tax returns and receive credit for the first time home buyer credits. When the plug-in electric vehicle credit was first announced the IRS start receiving tax returns for the credit before any plug-in electric vehicles were even produced.

Samuel

In the state I live in a car is considered new until it is registered.

 

[non sequitur]

The fact that one claims a particular tax credit on his or her tax return and receives the refund doesn't mean that the person qualified for the credit. Most people think that since the IRS sent me the refund it must mean that I qualified for it or they wouldn't have sent it.

The IRS does not review every single tax return to determine if you qualified for the tax credits you claimed.

Many people claim erroneous tax credits every year and receive the refunds.

The IRS sent out more than $50 billion in erroneous tax refunds for the $8000 first-time homebuyer credit. They didn't discover this into they cross reference with the Social Security Administration and found that some of these first-time homebuyers were four years old.

Inmates in prison filed tax returns and receive credit for the first time home buyer credits. When the plug-in electric vehicle credit was first announced the IRS start receiving tax returns for the credit before any plug-in electric vehicles were even produced.

Samuel

Very true: I guess it would take an audit for one to actually produce the title, but it rarely comes to that and even if it did I would have very solid grounds to claim the credit based on their being no prior non-dealer ownership (I'm a lawyer, so I could make a good argument, based in part on the debate even here on this board - there is certainly no shortage of ambiguity).

Fortunately, the offleaseonly car in question is no longer my best option, so for me at least the issue is moot - stay tuned; I may have a deal.

 

[Greg Dudevoir]

They can title them in there personal name then sell it at auction.

 

[smggsm]

My understanding is that this car has never been sold so chances are it is still eligible for the $7500 new car rebate. When I pulled the Carfax before it did not show that last portion so things may have changed and the dealer may have tried to register the vehicle to get the rebate.

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Title issued or updated
Dealer took title of this vehicle
while it was in inventory
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does this mean still eligible for tax credit?
what should say if it was registered not eligible to tax credit?