steveo said:
This may all seem like sport talk right now but when you have safety related issues like black outs, no speedo, strange noises etc its not about the ordinary I have 5 unordinary cars and the Fisker is a deadbeat by a long shot ,nice of you to make excuses for them but there are over 20 reported repeatable problems and some are safety sensitive so the situation is very fragile and Fisker has a huge hole to climb out of.
SteveO: I have no interest in making excuses for Fisker. I would love to have my car upgraded so that it keeps the radio presets and I can use my ipod interface, and I don't have to look at the check engine light all the time.
My point, which was probably lost in the snark, was that when the primary goal is to get a car with no bugs, you can buy established marques, such as BMW, AUDI, Benz, Jaguar, Lexus, etc. and there are plenty of those cars that will work perfectly on day 1 and will keep working without any problems for many many years. But if you are the kind person who buys a Lambo, Ferrari, McLaren, Zonda, etc., reliability and bug-free operation is not the primary criteria, excitement is.
The Karma is not super high performance car, but it is exciting in its own way and that appeals to a lot of people the same way a Lambo would appeal to them, even if the Lambo may not be as reliable as a Lexus. There are problems to be solved here, to be sure, but overall, at least for the owners who contribute to this site, it seems that the positives outweigh the negatives, Obviously, Fisker can rely on this sense of adventure forever and needs to address the problems. My only point was that there are plenty of cars that would give you near-absolute reliability from day 1, but they cannot give you what the Karma does.