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EV mode -> depletes battery
Stealth mode -> hold at any SOC
Sport mode -> depletes to 60% SOC (thinking about changing to a full sport where it allows full power all the way down to 15%?)
ER -> SOC rebuild to 90% SOC


Enjoy!
 

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Can this update be performed by a CSP, is it a patch and does it require hardware. what is the estimated cost?
 

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EV mode -> depletes battery
Stealth mode -> hold at any SOC
Sport mode -> depletes to 60% SOC (thinking about changing to a full sport where it allows full power all the way down to 15%?)
ER -> SOC rebuild to 90% SOC


Enjoy!
Can there be a Sport+ER mode? Provides full 360KW down to 60% and also refills the battery up when less than full power is needed?
 

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Will an "official" software update from Fisker overwrite these enhancements once they are available? With my Audi, a dealer software update usually requires a re-flash of any aftermarket ECU tune that may have been installed.
 

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Will an "official" software update from Fisker overwrite these enhancements once they are available? With my Audi, a dealer software update usually requires a re-flash of any aftermarket ECU tune that may have been installed.
The enhancement will not modify any of the existing OEM software in the vehicle. Our solution is plug and play hardware that adds functionality. To put the vehicle back to stock you simply unplug the module, to add the functionality you simply plug in the module. Fisker does not have the capability to overwrite our software since its on our physical module.
 

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The enhancement will not modify any of the existing OEM software in the vehicle. Our solution is plug and play hardware that adds functionality. To put the vehicle back to stock you simply unplug the module, to add the functionality you simply plug in the module. Fisker does not have the capability to overwrite our software since its on our physical module.
That is genius!
 

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http://youtu.be/7MAsf9yTK-I

24 minute drive video (uploading now should be available soon), all limits fully relaxed- see below. We ran these tests in an enhanced performance mode that no Karma owner has seen or experienced previously. We also plan on releasing an economy mode that reduces power output (and energy consumption) in the favor of economy. We are thinking about changing sport mode to this performance mode (which is now ER) and ER to the economy mode.

To answer a few questions; we are not ready to release efficiency numbers as yet as we are still working on tweaking the algorithm. We are working on total range calibration still and have not finished (see video)- total range keeps counting down even though EV range is being banked. Straight forward to fix.

Discharge limits (calibration parameters limited by hardware)
300kw @ instantaneous
225kw @ 10s limit
120kw @ Continuous


Charge Limits:

150kw @ instantaneous
120kw @ 10s limit
60kw Continuous

Any questions or feature requests please feel free to ask. We are still in Beta once we have formulated the content of the module we will send an invite for pre-orders to those on the mailing list (sign up here).

The countdown timer on our webpage is a rough guesstimate of when the product will be ready.
 

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http://youtu.be/7MAsf9yTK-I

24 minute drive video (uploading now should be available soon), all limits fully relaxed- see below. We ran these tests in an enhanced performance mode that no Karma owner has seen or experienced previously. We also plan on releasing an economy mode that reduces power output (and energy consumption) in the favor of economy. We are thinking about changing sport mode to this performance mode (which is now ER) and ER to the economy mode.

To answer a few questions; we are not ready to release efficiency numbers as yet as we are still working on tweaking the algorithm. We are working on total range calibration still and have not finished (see video)- total range keeps counting down even though EV range is being banked. Straight forward to fix.

Discharge limits (calibration parameters limited by hardware)
300kw @ instantaneous
225kw @ 10s limit
120kw @ Continuous


Charge Limits:

150kw @ instantaneous
120kw @ 10s limit
60kw Continuous

Any questions or feature requests please feel free to ask. We are still in Beta once we have formulated the content of the module we will send an invite for pre-orders to those on the mailing list (sign up here).

The countdown timer on our webpage is a rough guesstimate of when the product will be ready.
is it a DIY install?
 

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is it a DIY install?
We will require professional installation (CSP preferred) for the hardware and initial configuration for the module. Once the module is installed it will be as easy to disconnect and re-connect as pulling 12 (hard reset). The other issue is connectivity as this will require installation and routing the GPS and GSM antenna's. There is too much that can go wrong with a DIY install.
 

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We will require professional installation (CSP preferred) for the hardware and initial configuration for the module. Once the module is installed it will be as easy to disconnect and re-connect as pulling 12 (hard reset). The other issue is connectivity as this will require installation and routing the GPS and GSM antenna's. There is too much that can go wrong with a DIY install.
thx - appreciate the feedback. look forward to it .
 

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EV mode -> depletes battery
Stealth mode -> hold at any SOC
Sport mode -> depletes to 60% SOC (thinking about changing to a full sport where it allows full power all the way down to 15%?)
ER -> SOC rebuild to 90% SOC


Enjoy!
I would suggest keeping Stealth mode as Electric only and EV mode being the mode where SOC is maintained (a swap from what you have here) - I assume this would be a sort of hybrid mode where the battery charge would be used if regenerative braking delivered extra charge.

I am excited by the work you are doing!
 

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To all the people wondering why the New Fisker isn't doing this themselves: Keep in mind that as a OEM manufacturer they have to certify the cars to government standards and then need to maintain compliance with those standards. Significant changes to the car's operation, emission or efficiency profiles would mean long and costly re-certification activities which would not be financially viable. As a third-party, PowerSource is under no such constraints. While their aftermarket mods may well take your car out of compliance with the standards under which it was certified that is not a problem for the original manufacturer.

This isn't specific to Fisker, of course, it's the same with the entire aftermarket industry. There are lots of things that you can do to your cars to make them faster, quicker or look or sound 'better' but may no longer qualify under emissions, safety or efficiency standards. Officially the OEM's can't condone it or offer many of them, but they are well aware it is happening, much like I'm sure the New Fisker is paying attention here even though they cannot officially comment. For this reason I think a CSP installing these mods is going to be tricky, as it will put them in an awkward position.
 

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To all the people wondering why the New Fisker isn't doing this themselves: Keep in mind that as a OEM manufacturer they have to certify the cars to government standards and then need to maintain compliance with those standards. Significant changes to the car's operation, emission or efficiency profiles would mean long and costly re-certification activities which would not be financially viable. As a third-party, PowerSource is under no such constraints. While their aftermarket mods may well take your car out of compliance with the standards under which it was certified that is not a problem for the original manufacturer.

This isn't specific to Fisker, of course, it's the same with the entire aftermarket industry. There are lots of things that you can do to your cars to makem the faster, quicker or look or sound 'better' but may no longer qualify under emissions, safety or efficiency standards. Officially the OEM's can't condone it or offer many of them, but they are well aware it is happening, much like I'm sure the New Fisker is paying attention here even though they cannot officially comment. For this reason I think a CSP installing these mods is going to be tricky, as it will put them in an awkward position.
Technically we are an automotive OEM vehicle manufacturer and a "Tier 1" for many major OEM's who utilize and license our technology. We also have relationships with many of the CSP's who sell vehicles with brands who we sell parts to as a supplier. We have a commitment from many of these CSP's to install our product as well as non-fisker affiliated centers. I appreciate you chiming in but there is more going on behind the scenes than you may be aware of.
 
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