[SoCalGuy]

Just curious on the rationale for going with the standard vs. the EcoSport or EcoChic. Seems like Fisker is really pushing people to at least the EcoSport since the EcoStandard doesn't have a lot of things ( e.g. real leather [its got a pleather interior], premium audio, GPS, proximity sensors/rear camera, paint color choices, etc].

 

[brian]

I can't imagine too many people going for the Eco Standard. I'm guessing Fisker only offers that model just so that they can claim the car is under $100k, but who in their right mind would spend that much on a car only to cheap-out at the end?

-Brian

 

[SoCalGuy]

Yeah that's what I was thinking as well - pleather? in a $100K car??? Sorry, I guess its a "sub-$100K" car - marketing!

 

[brian]

From what I recall when I placed my order, the *actual* cost of a properly equipped Eco Sport with TT&L is like $118k minus the $7500 tax credit.

-Brian

 

[metalica23]

From what I recall when I placed my order, the *actual* cost of a properly equipped Eco Sport with TT&L is like $118k minus the $7500 tax credit.

-Brian

Wow, tax must be a bear in your neck of the woods. I think I'll be right at $110k prior to the credit.

 

[brian]

Our auto sales tax is 6.25%, so:

Eco Sport = $103,900
Destination Charge = $950
Paint = $3,000
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Sub-Total: $107,850
TT&L: $6,740
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Total = $114,590


Tack on another $2100 or so if you also go with tri-tone leather.

-Brian

 

[Dutch]

In Europe an Ecosport with glass particle paint costs € 118.000, which is $ 165.000 (!) at an exchange rate of 1,40. That includes 19% VAT (a bit more in some European countries, a bit less in others). So I guess the Americans can't complain

And it also shows why Fisker is hoping to sell a lot of them overseas. That's where the money can be made. Although I think making money will only start with the Nina.

Many European cars are being sold to business owners (like me), who can claim back the VAT. And in many European countries there are extra business tax deductions for clean cars.

On topic: the Eco Standard would only have been a viable car if it could be ordered with extra options like park assist and navigation. It cannot, so I guess it is indeed on the market just to keep the price under 100.000.

 

[brian]

Oh, I forgot the $2500 for the charging station. That's how it came to $118k originally.

-Brian

 

[metalica23]

Our auto sales tax is 6.25%, so:

Eco Sport = $103,900
Destination Charge = $950
Paint = $3,000
-----------------------
Sub-Total: $107,850
TT&L: $6,740
----------------------
Total = $114,590


Tack on another $2100 or so if you also go with tri-tone leather.

-Brian

Fair enough. I left off the destination charge from my order form for some reason. So, I'm really at $111k. Add special paint and a charger...yep, I see it now!

 

[Fabulist]

Oh, I forgot the $2500 for the charging station. That's how it came to $118k originally.

-Brian

You don't HAVE to buy the Fisker's charging system since the plug and interface follow the SAE 1772J standard. There are cheaper (also portable) alternatives for level II charging. This one (http://goo.gl/9Xame) for example. They have taken the price off the website, but it used to be $699, and you can take it with you and plug it into a 220V dryer plug if you are travelling.

-- Fab.

 

[brian]

The $2200 or whatever it was for the Fisker unit includes installation and permitting too. Those $700 units are still going to cost a bit more once you get an electrician and the permits.

-Brian

 

[Fabulist]

The $2200 or whatever it was for the Fisker unit includes installation and permitting too. Those $700 units are still going to cost a bit more once you get an electrician and the permits.

-Brian

True, but that would depend on your installation. I have a 240V sub panel in my garage wall that is connected to my solar inverter. It would take about 1/2 hour to add in a new 40A breaker and put in a 220V plug right next to the panel that I can use with a plug-and-play class II charger. Other people may need to have a whole new sub-panel installed, and a whole lot of other possibilities in between. I am pretty sure it is not going to cost me $1400 for the installation so the package deal is not all that great for me. But your milage may vary.

-- Fab

 

[Michael]

i am actually considering the standard, the only thing i want from the sport is tritone leather

the navi did not impress me, i would go nuts using it today.
Rear camera didnt work
Stereo didnt impress

the tritone leather impressed though..