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Wireless CarPlay in a 2017? Wow! I wasn’t aware and manufacturer supported wireless until BMW did so with 2019 models.
My 2018 GMC Denelli doesn’t have wireless CarPlay I hate it for the reason. I questioned why in 2015 I would receive my texts though the entertainmet screen and in 2018 and later models you need to hook up your phone to the USB port . They told me that all manufacturers were going that route .
Going backwards from wireless back to wired makes no sense they said it was a safety. Thing to keep people off there phones . I haven’t tried Apple car play in any of our 2018 cars at work to see if any other manufacturers have gone that route . Maight try it next week we have a good selection of different cars on the lot .
 

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It appears that the solution for now is to use my current CIU and disconnect the center speaker (BTW - front center speaker). Andrew indicated that I'll lose bluetooth capabilities but I rarely use it anyway. Everything else related to the CIU appears to work fine, but I've been told that the CIU will eventually go bad so hopefully FIskerPhilly or PowerSource can come up with something soon to allow us to change out these POS CIU's. What really chaps me is if it was water intrusion that caused my problems, Frank Kent performed the "fix" for that a couple of years ago.


FiskerPhilly or PowerSource - please let us know if/when you have some news regarding an alternative to Karma's CIU.
 

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It appears that the solution for now is to use my current CIU and disconnect the center speaker (BTW - front center speaker). Andrew indicated that I'll lose bluetooth capabilities but I rarely use it anyway. Everything else related to the CIU appears to work fine, but I've been told that the CIU will eventually go bad so hopefully FIskerPhilly or PowerSource can come up with something soon to allow us to change out these POS CIU's. What really chaps me is if it was water intrusion that caused my problems, Frank Kent performed the "fix" for that a couple of years ago.


FiskerPhilly or PowerSource - please let us know if/when you have some news regarding an alternative to Karma's CIU.

Just waiting on inventory once we get enough we can start selling them via FiskerPhilly
 

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Any update on this? With iOS 12 being out, now third party apps can be be used via Apple Carplay and a new CIU unit with carplay would be brilliant.

Of course, for us European owners, the unit would need to be shipped with clear instructions so that our dealers can install for us.

Do keep us posted on the availability on this. Thanx in advance!
 

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:) Apple carplay could defintely be better....agree there!

But hey, we are mostly either ios or Android phone users and with a dated CIU on our Fiskers. Having the ability to use Waze or Google Maps via the CIU would be a godsend.
 

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Would love to see a good option to replace the CIU which has always been a pain. Fortunately, mine is still working (as much as it ever did). Thanks for your continued efforts and I will wait to see what you are able to create.
 

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Just as a reminding note to everyone.

DO NOT THROW AWAY your CIUs!

I've been able to repair mine by cleaning the board and replacing a few components. My CIU first lost bluetooth, then started to get popping and static tones in the stereo intermittently, then eventually just went black randomly.

I took out the CIU, pulled the board, and found a puffed cap, as well as some corrosion. I cleaned off the corrosion and replaced a cap and a few other components. What I found with mine is that the water ingress caused a short which led to a spike that led to the cap and some resistors to essentially blow.

Once that happened, the trace leading to the input power for my bluetooth chip had no power.

Once I cleaned and replaced those components, my bluetooth came back to life.

The audio hum/static/popping noise I had was also due to the corrosion creating a ground loop. (Or so I thought).

After fixing everything else, the static/popping was still there. The hum was gone, but it was still annoying to listen to any audio in the car. So instead, I isolated the ground and added a suppressing circuit (resistor, diodes).

This eliminated any other issues I had with the CIU.

It is now working. Although I'll probably be replacing it with an Android Auto unit and physical HVAC / Heated Seat controls in the near future. I hate that stupid thing.

Also, based on my experience, "Water Intrusion Fix" did not remedy the solution. So look out for that. Mine had the fix performed twice by Fisker of Atlanta, and water still wicked itself down to the CIU. I'm willing to bet you have to do more to remedy this.

My solution isn't for everyone, but I'll share what I did.

I did two things:
1. Pulled out CIU, sealed the firewall entry from the inside with weatherstripping sealant (used a syringe to fill all the gaps I could see), and prayed it held.
2. Added a water block to the individual wires running to my CIU.

I performed both processes to try and fix this for good.

I also used weatherstrip sealant to attach my windshield weatherstrip (instead of double sided tape). I also added some gasketing around the HVAC opening to help raise the lip a bit and prevent water ingress from burning out that motor.

So far, I have been able to actually drive my car in the rain without fear. While I'm still cautious of rinsing the windshield, or running water into the cowl area while washing the car, I can say that I have been in some pretty substantial rain storms and the car hasn't had an issue.

But with that YMMV.

(Heres a good writeup on waterblocking cables and wires: ZipperTubing Waterblocking)
 

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Just as a reminding note to everyone.

DO NOT THROW AWAY your CIUs!

I've been able to repair mine by cleaning the board and replacing a few components. My CIU first lost bluetooth, then started to get popping and static tones in the stereo intermittently, then eventually just went black randomly.

I took out the CIU, pulled the board, and found a puffed cap, as well as some corrosion. I cleaned off the corrosion and replaced a cap and a few other components. What I found with mine is that the water ingress caused a short which led to a spike that led to the cap and some resistors to essentially blow.

Once that happened, the trace leading to the input power for my bluetooth chip had no power.

Once I cleaned and replaced those components, my bluetooth came back to life.

The audio hum/static/popping noise I had was also due to the corrosion creating a ground loop. (Or so I thought).

After fixing everything else, the static/popping was still there. The hum was gone, but it was still annoying to listen to any audio in the car. So instead, I isolated the ground and added a suppressing circuit (resistor, diodes).

This eliminated any other issues I had with the CIU.

It is now working. Although I'll probably be replacing it with an Android Auto unit and physical HVAC / Heated Seat controls in the near future. I hate that stupid thing.

Also, based on my experience, "Water Intrusion Fix" did not remedy the solution. So look out for that. Mine had the fix performed twice by Fisker of Atlanta, and water still wicked itself down to the CIU. I'm willing to bet you have to do more to remedy this.

My solution isn't for everyone, but I'll share what I did.

I did two things:
1. Pulled out CIU, sealed the firewall entry from the inside with weatherstripping sealant (used a syringe to fill all the gaps I could see), and prayed it held.
2. Added a water block to the individual wires running to my CIU.

I performed both processes to try and fix this for good.

I also used weatherstrip sealant to attach my windshield weatherstrip (instead of double sided tape). I also added some gasketing around the HVAC opening to help raise the lip a bit and prevent water ingress from burning out that motor.

So far, I have been able to actually drive my car in the rain without fear. While I'm still cautious of rinsing the windshield, or running water into the cowl area while washing the car, I can say that I have been in some pretty substantial rain storms and the car hasn't had an issue.

But with that YMMV.

(Heres a good writeup on waterblocking cables and wires: ZipperTubing Waterblocking)
Once you are sure it is working you should look at potting the enclosure so that moisture does not get in. That is the permanent fix to make sure water/moisture never gets in.



 

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Just as a reminding note to everyone.

DO NOT THROW AWAY your CIUs!

I've been able to repair mine by cleaning the board and replacing a few components. My CIU first lost bluetooth, then started to get popping and static tones in the stereo intermittently, then eventually just went black randomly.

I took out the CIU, pulled the board, and found a puffed cap, as well as some corrosion. I cleaned off the corrosion and replaced a cap and a few other components. What I found with mine is that the water ingress caused a short which led to a spike that led to the cap and some resistors to essentially blow.

Once that happened, the trace leading to the input power for my bluetooth chip had no power.

Once I cleaned and replaced those components, my bluetooth came back to life.

The audio hum/static/popping noise I had was also due to the corrosion creating a ground loop. (Or so I thought).

After fixing everything else, the static/popping was still there. The hum was gone, but it was still annoying to listen to any audio in the car. So instead, I isolated the ground and added a suppressing circuit (resistor, diodes).

This eliminated any other issues I had with the CIU.

It is now working. Although I'll probably be replacing it with an Android Auto unit and physical HVAC / Heated Seat controls in the near future. I hate that stupid thing.

Also, based on my experience, "Water Intrusion Fix" did not remedy the solution. So look out for that. Mine had the fix performed twice by Fisker of Atlanta, and water still wicked itself down to the CIU. I'm willing to bet you have to do more to remedy this.

My solution isn't for everyone, but I'll share what I did.

I did two things:
1. Pulled out CIU, sealed the firewall entry from the inside with weatherstripping sealant (used a syringe to fill all the gaps I could see), and prayed it held.
2. Added a water block to the individual wires running to my CIU.

I performed both processes to try and fix this for good.

I also used weatherstrip sealant to attach my windshield weatherstrip (instead of double sided tape). I also added some gasketing around the HVAC opening to help raise the lip a bit and prevent water ingress from burning out that motor.

So far, I have been able to actually drive my car in the rain without fear. While I'm still cautious of rinsing the windshield, or running water into the cowl area while washing the car, I can say that I have been in some pretty substantial rain storms and the car hasn't had an issue.

But with that YMMV.

(Heres a good writeup on waterblocking cables and wires: ZipperTubing Waterblocking)
Thats great maybe you should start a side business. I’ve thrown away more CIU then I want to admit to .
 

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Just as a reminding note to everyone.

DO NOT THROW AWAY your CIUs!

I've been able to repair mine by cleaning the board and replacing a few components. My CIU first lost bluetooth, then started to get popping and static tones in the stereo intermittently, then eventually just went black randomly.

I took out the CIU, pulled the board, and found a puffed cap, as well as some corrosion. I cleaned off the corrosion and replaced a cap and a few other components. What I found with mine is that the water ingress caused a short which led to a spike that led to the cap and some resistors to essentially blow.

Once that happened, the trace leading to the input power for my bluetooth chip had no power.

Once I cleaned and replaced those components, my bluetooth came back to life.

The audio hum/static/popping noise I had was also due to the corrosion creating a ground loop. (Or so I thought).

After fixing everything else, the static/popping was still there. The hum was gone, but it was still annoying to listen to any audio in the car. So instead, I isolated the ground and added a suppressing circuit (resistor, diodes).

This eliminated any other issues I had with the CIU.

It is now working. Although I'll probably be replacing it with an Android Auto unit and physical HVAC / Heated Seat controls in the near future. I hate that stupid thing.

Also, based on my experience, "Water Intrusion Fix" did not remedy the solution. So look out for that. Mine had the fix performed twice by Fisker of Atlanta, and water still wicked itself down to the CIU. I'm willing to bet you have to do more to remedy this.

My solution isn't for everyone, but I'll share what I did.

I did two things:
1. Pulled out CIU, sealed the firewall entry from the inside with weatherstripping sealant (used a syringe to fill all the gaps I could see), and prayed it held.
2. Added a water block to the individual wires running to my CIU.

I performed both processes to try and fix this for good.

I also used weatherstrip sealant to attach my windshield weatherstrip (instead of double sided tape). I also added some gasketing around the HVAC opening to help raise the lip a bit and prevent water ingress from burning out that motor.

So far, I have been able to actually drive my car in the rain without fear. While I'm still cautious of rinsing the windshield, or running water into the cowl area while washing the car, I can say that I have been in some pretty substantial rain storms and the car hasn't had an issue.

But with that YMMV.

(Heres a good writeup on waterblocking cables and wires: ZipperTubing Waterblocking)
Haha I have a box of about 20 wet ones, I should send them to you so you can have more fun...
 

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That’s awesome @latimer! Yes - Let’s get some functioning replacement CIUs! Hopefully these all last until a longer-term solution is ready.

Personally, I’m willing to seal any area I can to try to prevent the water instruction and hopefully alleviate one more cause for concern.

On a side note, @FiskerPhilly, would you be willing to send one of those bad CIUs to someone like me? If so, what would the cost be?
 

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That’s awesome @latimer! Yes - Let’s get some functioning replacement CIUs! Hopefully these all last until a longer-term solution is ready.

Personally, I’m willing to seal any area I can to try to prevent the water instruction and hopefully alleviate one more cause for concern.

On a side note, @FiskerPhilly, would you be willing to send one of those bad CIUs to someone like me? If so, what would the cost be?
I would think @FiskerPhilly would be happy to pay you to take them off his hands.

During the most recent Karma event in Los Gatos, one of the Karma reps told us that they are looking for a company to refurbish the CIUs, which sounded like a great idea. Does not seem like they made a lot of progress.
 

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Send them!

Haha I have a box of about 20 wet ones, I should send them to you so you can have more fun...
I'd definitely be interested in seeing if my solution was unique, or if this is universal.

I'm sure some will be worse than others, but if I had some dead ones to test with, I wouldn't mind seeing if I could revive them.

Shoot me a PM if you are willing to send some along.
 
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