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Guys,
I am new here and have had a ton of cars. We have baby and the wife is looking for a nice 4 door car. We both really like the Fisker but have a few concerns.

1. Warranty (as most people here) Car has 1600 miles on it and offering 0 warranty on a car that cost 66k dollars scares the bejesus out of me. Fields here in Florida can service the car but at 180hr it will add up quick.
We will be trading in 2 cars (which I have almost 200k in and losing our ass but they are both 2 door sports cars)

2. What is the failure rate, I saw that a battery goes out I am out up to 30k. We do not have that kind of cash flow to fix.


Can you guys check to see if it received the updated battery and RMD?

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YH4K16AA1CA000688

Rather have all leather vs. EcoChic interior but that is what this car comes with.





Any and all suggestions and comments are welcome.
YH4K16AA1CA000688
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No doubt it's a high risk proposition. I'd only buy if you have the disposable income to easily take a complete loss on the car.

Rather than taking a bath on your two current sports cars, why not sell them privately? Dealers are eager to dump their Karmas. No need to sweeten the deal for them.
 

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This was a Fisker OC car originally I believe- Lormax may be able to help as he was the main tech at that dealership.

Car looks clean to me- I have seen this car go through the blocks at Manheim a few times. I guess people don't like that color combo.

Chances are this car is not late enough in the production cycle and has not been driven enough for any problems to manifest themselves. I would pass on this car and look for something in the 2000's vin wise.

If you are feeling risky I can furnish you with the Manheim sales numbers and you can use it when negotiating a deal. In the whole scheme of things though I would not get a car like this with this low of a vin. The low miles is actually a bad thing at these vin numbers.
 

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Maybe Lormax can chime in the see if it recieved that updated battery.

I think the dealer is being fair on the trade in. I am washing one of them (paying off what we owe) and the other one is paid for and getting 30k for it.

There are only roughly 2200 cars, finding a vin that high would very limit the market and I would need to find a private buyer for 2 cars (plus I lose the tax benefit of 47k trade in)

I have a local Mech that can work on the car. Might not be a "cert fisker" mechanic but he has already worked on one. He used to be lead Hennessey mechanic and works on my cars. So, at least the hr rate will be better. Just not sure how impossible it will be to get parts.

They are selling the car to me for 64890
 

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I like the interior colors and think EcoChic is the way to go personally. Pricing wise - I think that $ is full retail at the moment for that VIN with those miles. It's not a bad deal but I think you can do better.

I think Karmas are rather plentiful in Florida - shouldn't be too tough to find a few to pick from. I agree with prior posts - try to hold out for a VIN # over 2000 if you can to give yourself a little more peace of mind.

Tell us about what you are looking to get rid of...you never know, maybe someone here will PM you with a better offer than the dealer is willing to do.
 

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Lingenfelter C6 with Lamborghni seats
The rear LPE fascia is authentic CES rear that is not buyable. This is not the CES 427TT car. There are only 14 rears in the world.
Full DSV interior
360 Forged wheels
and more

Open to offers. :)









and a 500hp NA 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS FULL Leather interior done by DSV - 22k plus many other mods




 

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Don't want to be a downer, because I really do love my car, but if you are not prepared to write the car off because of mechanical failure the day after you buy it, or not be prepared to spend 15-30k for RDM or battery, I would steer clear.

Just read a few of the scarier posts, and then put yourself in that persons situation. If you can tolerate the uncertainty then, by all means, take the plunge. If not--get an Audi A7 or BMW 535 or some other reliable vehicle.
 

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Lingenfelter C6 with Lamborghni seats
The rear LPE fascia is authentic CES rear that is not buyable. This is not the CES 427TT car. There are only 14 rears in the world.
Full DSV interior
360 Forged wheels
and more

Open to offers. :)


and a 500hp NA 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS FULL Leather interior done by DSV - 22k plus many other mods
Cool cars, wish I was into 'Murican muscle. I was hoping for maybe a 993 Turbo or something. :)

If my Karma sh!ts the bed and there are only exorbitantly expensive repair options...I'll buy a beater Honda Civic to drive around before I write-off the Karma. As more time goes by, I believe solutions will emerge...I read about ingenuity / problem solving on this site nearly every day. Best case, FA rises from the ashes and honors the warranties.
 

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I spent a good amount of time chatting with Jon his cars are the real deal we have a lot of things in common . I'm also on the fence what direction he should take I feel the feedback from the members here will help him make the right decision .
And if its not the right decision at least his heard and read everyone's positive and negative things with Fisker and the Krama
 

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I am sure a lot of people said the same about Delorean...lol
And they were right. You can get any part and service is widely available across the US. You can even buy a 'brand new' one built to your spec.

delorean.com

(the website seems to be messed up right now but normally it's very pleasing to look at and navigate)
 

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Jon, get the 2000 + vin or at least one that has had the battery checked and/or replaced and with a new rear end (RDM and TM). Mine is #72, but has had both replaced and at almost 13K miles seem to be bullet proof. Just pick carefully, consult with Adam and you will be OK, but remember big rewards come with big risks.
 

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This was a Fisker OC car originally I believe- Lormax may be able to help as he was the main tech at that dealership.
Yep, definitely a Fisker of OC car in the past. It's fully updated software and recall-wise, and has the updated door pull rings.

The only TSS case I could find on it involved the external sound being inoperative, which was traced to a pin that hadn't been completely installed and locked into its connector. That problem was fixed.

The HV battery and RDM units do not show as ever being replaced.

With a VIN that low, with that low mileage, I'd pretty much demand a lower price. You could then use the savings to have the RDM unit updated, the splines secured and cross your fingers on the battery. Battery rebuilding isn't out of the question anymore, so thats become slightly less of a worry.

My 2 cents, if this will be your only 4-door car to be able to move mom and baby around, I'd put some serious thought into it. If you have other options in case something happens though, go for it. Just haggle that price down.
 

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Its had a bunch of little things fixed on it but nothing serious. The battery is on the suspect pack list but that doesn't necessarily mean it will be fail anytime soon.

VIN 2000+ or not I wouldn't buy one of these with less than 10k miles on it.
 

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Its had a bunch of little things fixed on it but nothing serious. The battery is on the suspect pack list but that doesn't necessarily mean it will be fail anytime soon.

VIN 2000+ or not I wouldn't buy one of these with less than 10k miles on it.
Or buy an early one for cheap and have the parts ready in case SHF. I have seen splines spin out at after 10k miles, in fact I have a spun TM that had 14k miles in my garage right now. Its true that most problems happen early in the cars life-cycle but these cars are strange. Problems seem to happen randomly at random mileages. For example- shorted motors or disintegrating harnesses. The harnesses on these cars are almost impossible to find and Lear is not making them anymore. Fisker bought all the wiring and from what I gather the raw wiring looms are just sitting there- so they are not much use if your harness starts to go.

I think most people that own these cars better prepare them self mentally that something bad will probably happen and it will probably cost a lot of money to fix. Is it worth it? Probably not for a lot of people but if you prepare accordingly I think you can mitigate this risk.

The biggest question I have is why aren't people selling cars that have had catastrophic failures? It seems as if Fisker owners don't mind spending whatever it takes to get their cars back on the road. With all the bad batteries floating out there you would think there would at least be a few inoperable Karma's for sale?
 
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