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http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/18/news/companies/gm-tesla/index.html?iid=HP_LN

GM CEO Akerson forms group within the nation's largest automaker to weigh threat posed by upstart Tesla.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
General Motors dwarfs Tesla Motors in virtually every way -- number of cars made, sales and profits. But that doesn't mean GM isn't worried about the upstart electric car maker.

GM has confirmed that CEO Dan Akerson has formed a task force within the company to look at the impact from alternative automakers. The only alternative car company it named: Tesla.

"He thinks Tesla could be a big disrupter if we're not careful. History is littered with big companies that ignored innovation that was coming their way because you didn't know where you could be disrupted," said GM Vice Chairman Steve Girsky in an interview published Thursday by the wire service Bloomberg. GM confirms the quote.

GM could be learning from its past mistakes. It has paid the price for underestimating threats from upstarts in the past.

All three big U.S. car companies -- GM, Ford Motor (F, Fortune 500) and Chrysler Group -- did not pay enough attention when Japanese automakers such as Toyoto Motor (TM) and Honda Motor (HMC) appeared on the horizon with cheap, energy efficient imports.

Today, Toyota has edged out GM as the world's largest automaker and is No. 3 in U.S. sales. Meanwhile, GM took a federal bailout and a trip to bankruptcy court in 2009 to survive the Great Recession.

GM sold 2.5 million vehicles globally in the second quarter, while Tesla set a sales target of selling about 5,000 cars during the same quarter.

But Tesla's Model S has generated tremendous attention, including Consumer Reports calling it the best car it has ever reviewed. The share price of Tesla (TSLA) has more than tripled so far this year and the company now has a market value of $14 billion. GM (GM, Fortune 500)'s market value is $50.6 billion.
 

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I think outside of advancing battery tech, deep pocketed guys like GM should really be heavily investing in the range extender tech to make them smaller, lighter and more efficient than a repurposed off-the-shelf ICE with a generator slapped on the end.
 

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yeah, something like the I3, motorcycle engines, or even a fuel-cell engine to power a battery pack -- don;t know if it's possible, but is there a concept to use fuel cell to make the electricity to power a battery pack?

could there be a chance we remove the GM sourced ICE from the Fisker, slap a FuelCell capability and replace the nine gallon tank with a hydrogen type tank? is this even an option?
 

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Rather than going that route, was thinking of a a diesel-based genset that operates at discrete, peak efficiency RPM levels (with excess power gen going to recharge battery)...
 

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Typical old-school large company BS: form a committee. By the time the committee has its inaugural meeting and decides on the menu for lunch, Tesla has introduced two new models, shaved 10% off the battery pack mass, added 4-wheel drive, and started shipping to Antarctica. As the old saying goes, committees are where good ideas go to die.
 
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