[gmcole92]

I was thinking we should have the moderators create a board just for buying/selling cars. I'm in the same boat as you. Would be great to have a markeplace here to match up buyers and sellers

 

[Fabulist]

I was thinking we should have the moderators create a board just for buying/selling cars. I'm in the same boat as you. Would be great to have a markeplace here to match up buyers and sellers

There is already a forum for this purpose. Here is the link.

 

[flying dutchman]

@bigdaddy & Gmcole,

Till today my car gets serviced. There is no reason to panic. No one knows what will happen when FA falls over. There is a good chance that some one will pick up the pieces (relieved of all the debt). Any new owner will have to satisfy current customers if they want to survive. Dealers will continue to sellcars and therefore have to take care of existing cars and owners too. Just be patient and hold on to your cars. It wont take long until we know what will happen.

 

[Sandy Eggo]

I agree with Dutchman. Don't Panic !

I understand everyone has different priorities in life - and perhaps having a Karma feels too heavy of a proposition at this point. Yes, things will get worse before they get better but try to gut it out. If you bail now, you will only get taken advantage of.

 

[gmcole92]

Dutchman - I agree in principle. My issue is that just when I think things have hit rock bottom for FA, they get worse. If FA goes completely "belly up", the little value we have could disappear. I do believe the cars will increase in value in the long term, but I have no interest in hanging on that long.

 

[Stefan]

Who ever is willing to sell its car, should mention the location... I don't think, that I would travel to Kentucky to get a 2nd ...


Stefan
German Karma Forum
www.karma-forum.de

 

[ffcars]

@bigdaddy & Gmcole,

Till today my car gets serviced. There is no reason to panic. No one knows what will happen when FA falls over. There is a good chance that some one will pick up the pieces (relieved of all the debt). Any new owner will have to satisfy current customers if they want to survive. Dealers will continue to sellcars and therefore have to take care of existing cars and owners too. Just be patient and hold on to your cars. It wont take long until we know what will happen.

I disagree. It's time to sell. Only those with more money than brains will hang on to these cars. They could all become 2 ton paper weights with even the smallest issue with software, body panels, batteries, computers, hardware, etc.

All it takes is some unknown issue to appear and we're sunk.

So I'll selling too. We're in Atlanta and will gladly sell for $70k. One local high end dealer is offering close to that on a trade. So if someone wants a 10k mile silver with black/ tan leather send me an email. The car is nice, and has the latest unpdates. It has the usual black screen about every 100 starts, but it goes away like all others.

Bill

 

[ffcars]

I should also add that I'm very experienced in importing and exporting motor vehicles so if you are international I can assist in getting the car shipped cheap and fast.

I import over 5,000 motorcycles and scooters each year as a manufacturer.

Bill

 

[flying dutchman]

Dutchman - I agree in principle. My issue is that just when I think things have hit rock bottom for FA, they get worse. If FA goes completely "belly up", the little value we have could disappear. I do believe the cars will increase in value in the long term, but I have no interest in hanging on that long.

I don't think that any one at this moment will pay a fair price....you should have sold 6 months ago or hold on.

 

[bigdaddyo811]

Location

I am in San Antonio, Texas. I too would be happy with 70kish.

Perhaps we can limit the thread to anyone interested in buying the car(s) here. The discussion around whether to sell or not should be handled in the other forums/posts.

I dont know if the mod can move the original message to the FOR SALE forum. I didnt know it existed

Thanks

I am not a technical person so these ups and downs with possible service is a little problematic for me. If someone wants to buy my car, make me a reasonable offer and it's yours!

Black on Black Ecostandard 6700 miles. Has the XPEL clear bra on the entire front and the hips on the back.

I love the car, but am not saavy enough to source parts, service etc if there are problems.

Thanks
BDO

 

[Fabulist]

I dont know if the mod can move the original message to the FOR SALE forum. I didnt know it existed

Thanks

I moved the original post to the "For Sale" forum. The discussion can stay here, but if you want to sell your Karma, please make a single post to the "For Sale" section of the "Classified" forum.

 

[Ecodoc]

After considering the conversations and our situations as owners of a car that is both outstanding and rare: I would recommend not selling. Car enthusiasts are what we are and this car is now going to be a collectable and attractive to a whole new base of potential customers. It's not the Edsel, it's not the DeLorean, it's not a Yugo!. It's arguably the coolest car in the world. We just don't have a company!.. So, if you can hold on. There's a limited number currently and if they ever start making more.. I'll bet it won't have the same quality we have in ours. They will be a sought after car forever. And as we worry about software; every car made now is dependent on software to make it work. And BTW, if you don't sell them, the value does not diminish. If we hold on to them and make them rare... the rules of supply and demand are in our favor. IMHO. Best wishes to all.

 

[bigdaddyo811]

I dont disagree with those sentiments, however, as a non tech person with limited resources, what does one do if there is no dealer when the car breaks down in a capacity that a conventional mechanic cant fix (i.e. GE engine). ? Software/Battery/etc?

 

[Fabulist]

After considering the conversations and our situations as owners of a car that is both outstanding and rare: I would recommend not selling. Car enthusiasts are what we are and this car is now going to be a collectable and attractive to a whole new base of potential customers. It's not the Edsel, it's not the DeLorean, it's not a Yugo!. It's arguably the coolest car in the world. We just don't have a company!.. So, if you can hold on. There's a limited number currently and if they ever start making more.. I'll bet it won't have the same quality we have in ours. They will be a sought after car forever. And as we worry about software; every car made now is dependent on software to make it work. And BTW, if you don't sell them, the value does not diminish. If we hold on to them and make them rare... the rules of supply and demand are in our favor. IMHO. Best wishes to all.

This is a very personal decision and I am not advocating one way or another. For me, it makes sense to keep my car because it has been working fine and I have not had any show stopping problems with mine since upgrading to 618, and later to 510. In my experience, the software is not going to wear out or change itself. As long as I have a source for the hardware and mechanical parts, anything that breaks or wears out can be replaced.

I feel that this car is a piece of history and I will keep it as long as I can keep it running.