Fisker Buzz Forums banner
1 - 1 of 1 Posts

· Premium Member
Joined
·
586 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2010/06/09/fisker-doesnt-see-any-bad-karma-in-dealing-with-gas-guzzlers/?mod=rss_WSJBlog



Wall Street Journal said:
Even though Fisker Automotive Inc. is not hurting for cash, with more than $300 million in private funding and a $529 million federal loan, the hybrid electric car manufacturer is looking for funding from the old-school car manufacturers that many might think are its enemy.

Some say taking money from an established competitor with the stodgy old technology of an internal combustion engine is heresy for the new breed of electric vehicle makers. Kevin Czinger, chief executive of electric car start-up Coda Automotive Inc., in a recent interview with VentureWire questioned the true commitment such companies have to electric and alternative vehicles.

But, he added, one should never say never. Meanwhile, Tesla Motors Inc. recently signed a deal in which Toyota Motors Corp. may buy up to $50 million worth of Tesla shares, in another sign of the new school and the old school sharing the road.

As for Fisker, the maker of a plug-in hybrid sedan called the Karma, it is talking to some gas-engine automakers about investments, said Chief Executive Henrik Fisker in an interview on the sidelines of the Lazard Capital Markets Alternative Energy Summit in New York on Wednesday.

In an email exchange after the conference, Fisker said electric-vehicle companies could see several benefits from teaming up with traditional car companies, including partnerships around gasoline engines for future models (a gas engine developed by General Motors Corp. is already integrated into the Karma).

“Of course, joint volume in purchase of batteries, etc., is a cost advantage for both sides as well,” he said. “Other future joint development and plug-in hybrid specific platforms and production could also be a possibility.”

The traditional companies could also learn something from the upstarts, Fisker suggested. During a panel discussion at the conference, Fisker said his company has done a few things very differently in the design of its cars and in its manufacturing that cut “hundreds of millions of dollars” and years from the process of making a new car. “We have very low overhead and we can move extremely fast,” he added.

Fisker declined to say which automakers he’s talked to, though the company does have a relationship with GM from its use of GM’s engine. Fisker also has made an offer to buy one of GM’s unused factories in Wilmington, Del., and GM holds an equity stake in one of Fisker’s partners and investors, Quantum Fuel Systems Woldwide Inc.

Fisker has already pre-sold several thousand of its luxury Karma vehicles, with customers paying $5,000 each in down payments. The car, which sells for around $88,000, is now on a dealer tour, going through 45 dealerships in the U.S. and 50 in Europe.
While I think we can safely rule out Tesla as a potential partner, who besides GM do you think Fisker is negotiating with?

I'm thinking Fiat/Chrysler must be a top contender because of its under-utilized North American production capacity and recent overhaul of its manufacturing model. Perhaps Fiat/Chrysler can provide a platform and miscellaneous parts like switches for future Fisker vehicles. Maybe even joint-develop a version of the Nina sedan for Chrysler and Lancia.

Victor Muller, the CEO of Saab, has been particularly vocal recently about partnering with other automakers. Saab needs partners to bring its part costs down and make new models viable -- and Saab's other partner GM is obviously already on good terms with Fisker as well. Perhaps the Fisker Nina could be built on the next Saab 9-3 platform? Saab has also mentioned that it's looking for a partner for EVs.

Your thoughts?
 
1 - 1 of 1 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top