[Sparky168]

RE: Everyone just needs to see the Karma stabalized (software etc) and Funding worked out

plugitin,

You seem to be very optimistic, which is great. Is there something you can share with us to boost our optimism or is it just your nature?

I have to say I'm seeing a lot of pessimism on this forum and not much optimism.

There was pessimism that Fisker wouldn't make it when the company was launched 4 years ago, and they made it. There was pessimism that they wouldn't complete the car and they did. There was pessimism they wouldn't be able to produce it in significant numbers and they are doing right that.

And now there is pessimism that they can't fix the electronic issues troubling the cars that have already been delivered, even though they are working hard on fixing them and seem to be making progress. Why not believe that they can solve them? There is pessimism the company won't survive because the Nina-program has been put on hold because they are renegotiating the loan-conditions, even though the Karma is fully funded. Why not believe that they can live on the Karma for now, that they can re-negotiate, that they can find more private funds, that they can go public...

There is not enough celebration of an American success. A little bit of setback or roadblock, non-doers come out in full force trashing and FUDding. Where has the American innovation and risk taking gone to? Is America going to take a back seat to the emerging countries?

I am looking at the Fisker Karma, they go from zero to a car in four years. That is mighty impressive. But some said they are two years too late. So late they should not be in business? Fisker has probably over promised. Better late than never. Look at the car, how nicely it drives, almost no trip to gas station for some, drives clean and it is stunning.

Karma is very much like a computer. It is not an ICE car, put in your key, turn and go. It need to do a complete boot up first. Impatient driver pressing multiple function before it boots up will confuse the computer. Should it happen that way? Probably not. Fisker delivered a working car, the fine tuning will be done...beauty of software. A lot of high-tech companies will ship their hardware to the field, deploy, gain field experience and improve. You all have got a great car. What is stopped is Nina which has nothing to do with Karma. Wouldn't you do the same thing if the business plan involving DOE changed? Take a breather and reevaluate.

Fisker designs too beautiful a car to go out of business. If you have the right product, you have no problem with demand. I have every confidence that Fisker will survive and flourish.

 

[Sparky168]

RE: Everyone just needs to see the Karma stabalized (software etc) and Funding worked out

Karma is very much like a computer. It is not an ICE car, put in your key, turn and go. It need to do a complete boot up first. Impatient driver pressing multiple function before it boots up will confuse the computer. Should it happen that way? Probably not. Fisker delivered a working car, the fine tuning will be done...beauty of software. ...

Full boots are slow on modern computers, in part because nobody dares rewrite all the boot code. We (I say "we" but it was a different sub-group) had a project where we had to have the computer boot in 3 or 4 seconds. The BIOS itself took at least 6 seconds to bootstrap, giving us about negative two seconds to get our software up and running. :dodgy: The solution was to keep a pre-booted image (in battery-backed CMOS RAM I think) and copy it out for "normal" aka "warm" startup (with an alternative "full boot" path for "cold" restart). That's the ugly of software.

Seriously, this happens every time and yet somehow it's always a surprise: hardware is soft and software is hard.

It does get fixed though. It just takes a lot of time and testing. The most valuable thing in addressing a problem is a reliable "reproducer": if you can get the software to hang/crash consistently, you can be pretty sure you've fixed it when you've identified a cause, fixed that, and the reproducer stops reproducing the problem. If it's intermittent it's much harder to fix.

You are a great debugger. Come on, software is not hard. It is just typing. When I debugged hardware a long time ago , signal integrity and floating ground is what I go for first.

 

[Sparky168]

RE: Everyone just needs to see the Karma stabalized (software etc) and Funding worked out

Good news!

Did you read this?
http://myfiskerkarma.com/2012/02/09/speedy-is-back/#comment-17

Sorry, I don't know how to start a new thread.