I agree this forum is for owners to discuss pros, cons, ideas, accessories, etc. about their Karma's, but as we all know, myself included, potential buyers are also here wanting feedback on if they should buy an unproven brand, wondering if the Karma will turn into a $100k brick, etc. I have noticed, in my opinion, not enough owners have come fwd with their experiences after the 6.28 update. If you are considering a Karma, I want to share my experience with the car....I purchased my Karma in February of this year and yes, I've had all the issues, glitches, etc. on my car that you may have read about on here in the past....yes, it has been frustrating and time consuming, but Fisker's customer service throughout this process has been, to say the least, stellar. I've owned every brand under the sun and few compare to their efforts to make things right. About 6 or 7 weeks ago now, a Fisker engineer flew in, personally uploaded the 6.28 software, and the car has been FLAWLESS every since and my car was one of the early builds. As many others have said here, my past headaches were always software glitches, but I've NEVER had a mechanical issue. Being frustrated in the past, I'd be lieing if I didn't admit I've considered replacing my Karma until.....until I look at what would replace it, I can't find anything that gives you the same experience, drive, feel, fuel economy (btw I'm avg. 120 mpg after 1500 miles). I was skeptical about the car when I first visited my dealer and then I drove it....drive one, it's a phenomenal driving car and is why I bought it first and foremost. Like the Taylor Swift song "People throw rocks at things that shine"....it makes a better story for folks at Consumer Reports and other media outlets to beat up on the car since this is Fisker's first effort and because they borrowed $ from the DOE, some people seem hell bent on beating down this car and I'll never understand that. BMW recalled 2013 M6's and M5's a few days ago because the oil pumps are failing and destroying the engines. Jesus, how many cars has Government Motors (GM) recalled in the last 90 days? Read "Inside Line" on Edmunds.com.....the # of established manufacturers with recalls and car fires is staggering, but most of it never makes it to the mainstream, you have to dig for this information. Bottomline is my car kicks ass, I've had ZERO issues since the 6.28 update and I love this car....don't let the naysayers discourage you if you are considering a Karma, just confirm the car has the latest software update, Fisker has the major issues ironed out now, the 6.28 update is what you'll need at a minimum, and you'll drive off happy....very happy indeed.