PowerSource· Liked, but not well liked
I understand the CIU and driver display hardware is different between the Revero and Karma. I am curious why replacing the display and CIU in the Karma with the new hardware from the Revero is not possible. I am assuming the Revero software could be adapted to run on the Karma, or are the 2 cars really that different? I was always under the impression that the reason the Revero was re-launched so quickly was because nothing dramatically changed between the 2 cars, allowing the original certification to apply to the Revero?
Thanks @PowerSource. It doesn't make sense to me that you can change the display and CIU on the Revero and not require a re-certification....but if you change the display and CIU on the Karma, it does require a re-certification? I guess that is the million dollar rhetorical question, and one that will never get answered. Too bad because I think some Karma owners would pay to retrofit their Karmas with the new technology from the Revero.
It is extremely disappointing that Karma is going out of their way to make false statements about our products and company. Karma is not associated with our company and it is in poor taste for them to comment falsely on our personnel and products. Pathetic.Here is the reason Joost gave me way they would never do it. He said something as follows:
Let's say we did allow this and you update the car software. Well now you sell it to a new owner. He didn't ok this 3rd party software and something goes wrong with the car or causes an accident. They could sue Karma as liable for ok'ing the 3rd party use. He said it opens the door to issues and liabilty they don't want. He said at some point we have to say ok, we gave you the 535 update and now is time to upgrade the car to the new Revero if you want more.
He was very nice about it and believes they are doing right. He did say there is no one named Julian at Powersource and said his real name to me. He said he was bypassing things on the car that they don't understand with the TOM and he didn't have anything positive to say about them. He didn't bash @PowerSource, he was polite yet stern on the fact that one should be careful when modifying the Fisker. He said he has over 87K on his Fisker and loves it, but it's time now for the Revero...the car that should have been released by Fisker.
mmm I would imagine KA says let no good deed go "unpunished". They didn't have to give us 535, or anything. If they just let the court ordered warranty prevail, found new dealers, and moved to their new car production while leaving the Fisker owners behind, they would have not been litigated by PS. I expect they will learn from that lesson. Expect NOTHING more for Fisker Owner. Way to go PS. You may have won..... we may have lost.
U have my support, let me know how to participate !
Their CEO (tom Corcoran chairman of A123) and Jim taylor basically control the company. Joost will not likely say anything that has not been fed to him by these two individuals. Likely the information you are being fed is from Tom himself through Joost the messenger. YMMV. Just my opinion Perhaps you should try to call the CEO himself and ask him what he thinks. Their number is on their site. Lets see what happens!I have been vocal and even though I supported their efforts - long conversation with jim and minimal with joast ( he seemed very sly to me) - i even put my two cents in a video they asked me to do whixh they never aired- given their action since 535 , i see their actions as abandonment and i signed the patition both on this boatd and on the karmaitomotive site - i hope their ceo and jim talor have more say - they both seemed level headed! Lets hope they reconsider, otherwise they can kiss many brand ambassadors good bye!
Close to finishing upWhen should I make an appointment with Joe ? Standing by!!!!!!!!