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I'm a few miles away from the Fisker Boxwood Road Plant and I produce local TV. I am also a car guy and would like to cover the progress of the plant and Nina however I can never get any info from anybody. I want to see folks from Delaware working and want to see new cars so where do I go to get anyone to answer anything?

PS I did cover when VP Joe Biden was at the plant and haven't been able to get any updates since.
 

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I too am a car guys and particularly interested in electric powered vehicles. When will this car be in production? What will it look like? What will it cost? I have heard that it will be available sometime next year, is it undergoing testing now? I assume that the factory in Delaware is in full swing getting ready to build the cars, is that correct?
 

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@Jimmy and @George: You may have better luck reaching out to Roger Ormisher at Fisker. He is in charge of global media communications and he may be able to direct you to someone who can answer those questions for you on behalf of Fisker. We, the members of the forum, can tell you what we know, but often our information is also incomplete and from less than reliable sources so you would be better off talking to someone at Fisker directly.

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@Jimmy and @George: The only official representive from Fisker who participates in these forums is David Harris, who manages Fisker's online and social media presence. David pops in occasionally to post some information, but you may also want to reach out to him directly. Here is his contact information:

David Harris
Manager, eCommerce & Digital Marketing
Tel: +1 714-888-4255
Mobile: +1 949-892-0437
Desk: +1 714-485-1283
[email protected]
www.fiskerautomotive.com


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Thanks for the replies. They sure are faster then any reply I ever got from Fisker. It would be nice to see everything work out, a new American car come to life, and folks from my state building them
 

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Jimmy Biggs said:
I'm a few miles away from the Fisker Boxwood Road Plant and I produce local TV. I am also a car guy and would like to cover the progress of the plant and Nina however I can never get any info from anybody. I want to see folks from Delaware working and want to see new cars so where do I go to get anyone to answer anything?

PS I did cover when VP Joe Biden was at the plant and haven't been able to get any updates since.
Jimmy,

I will ask our PR team reach out to you. Please e-mail me your contact info to [email protected] and I will reach out to you Monday and also pass along to the team to keep you informed.

Best regards,
David Harris, Fisker Automotive.
 

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Jimmy Biggs said:
I'm a few miles away from the Fisker Boxwood Road Plant and I produce local TV. I am also a car guy and would like to cover the progress of the plant and Nina however I can never get any info from anybody. I want to see folks from Delaware working and want to see new cars so where do I go to get anyone to answer anything?

PS I did cover when VP Joe Biden was at the plant and haven't been able to get any updates since.
Jimmy,

I will ask our PR team reach out to you. Please e-mail me your contact info to [email protected] and I will reach out to you Monday and also pass along to the team to keep you informed.

Best regards,
David Harris, Fisker Automotive.
EMail sent .......... Thanks for the quick reply:D
 

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DHarris said:
Jimmy Biggs said:
I'm a few miles away from the Fisker Boxwood Road Plant and I produce local TV. I am also a car guy and would like to cover the progress of the plant and Nina however I can never get any info from anybody. I want to see folks from Delaware working and want to see new cars so where do I go to get anyone to answer anything?

PS I did cover when VP Joe Biden was at the plant and haven't been able to get any updates since.
Jimmy,

I will ask our PR team reach out to you. Please e-mail me your contact info to [email protected] and I will reach out to you Monday and also pass along to the team to keep you informed.

Best regards,
David Harris, Fisker Automotive.
Well David the Fisker "PR" team is not doing Fisker Automotive justice. I am the only local Delaware TV and I get "Blown Off" .......... I suspect Fisker will have questions to answer in the not to distant future as some big names from the national media are looking around town.
 

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The Fisker Nina is being kept under wraps for at least one more year (probably to avoid hurting Karma-sales). I can imagine they also don't want to have journalists walking around in the factory for a while (which is a shame, it would make a nice documentary). But if that is the policy, then I understand why you were blown off. I just hope they did it in a nice way.
 

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The Fisker Nina is being kept under wraps for at least one more year (probably to avoid hurting Karma-sales). I can imagine they also don't want to have journalists walking around in the factory for a while (which is a shame, it would make a nice documentary). But if that is the policy, then I understand why you were blown off. I just hope they did it in a nice way.
Look its not my first rodeo in the auto business. If they are going into production the end of 2012 there would be units out right now on the street testing.
It won't hurt Karma sales because its two different markets.
Fisker took money from the American taxpayer and we need to see updates. There are plenty of Delaware politicians that are calling this the next Solyndra.
I'm starting to think the same

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Jimmy Biggs said:
There are plenty of Delaware politicians that are calling this the next Solyndra. I'm starting to think the same.
This is a disappointing thing to hear from a journalist. If you go beyond the soundbyte you'll find that Fisker (or Tesla) share nothing in common with Solyndra other than being a recipient of the same government program - along with most other major auto makers who accepted vastly larger sums. Fisker has so far met all of the conditions and timelines of the DOE loan, has not defaulted on any committments, is not in bankruptcy, has created at least 750 US-based jobs, is actively reviving a defunct GM plant to hire several thousand more, and is actually beginning deliveries of products to the marketplace (albeit much delayed). Your statement suggests either that you have not done any meaningful research, or that you already have a slant that you are looking to justify as opposed to actual journalism.

There have been mock up and presumably functioning prototypes of the Nina for a while, and I agree that they are likely in both static and dynamic testing. The fact that they are doing this privately and not publicly shoud not come as a surprise to anyone, as this is the method that every car manufacturer follows - and why there is both a car camoflauge and spy-shot industry. I expect they are testing the Nina hidden in plain sight - the Karma testing was initailly carried out with a pickup truck body.

The people in this forum are by and large supporters of Fisker Automotive and their vision and mission. Regardless of how frustrated we as individual consumers may be with them about their operational matters, I doubt you'll find much support here for the sort of biased, politically charged and inaccurate tripe that's been bandied about lately.

I encourage you to take an honest look at what Fisker and Tesla are trying to do, especially against the current automotive landscape in the USA, and form your own opinion about their value, and their successes and setbacks.
 

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Jimmy Biggs said:
There are plenty of Delaware politicians that are calling this the next Solyndra. I'm starting to think the same.
This is a disappointing thing to hear from a journalist. If you go beyond the soundbyte you'll find that Fisker (or Tesla) share nothing in common with Solyndra other than being a recipient of the same government program - along with most other major auto makers who accepted vastly larger sums. Fisker has so far met all of the conditions and timelines of the DOE loan, has not defaulted on any committments, is not in bankruptcy, has created at least 750 US-based jobs, is actively reviving a defunct GM plant to hire several thousand more, and is actually beginning deliveries of products to the marketplace (albeit much delayed). Your statement suggests either that you have not done any meaningful research, or that you already have a slant that you are looking to justify as opposed to actual journalism.

There have been mock up and presumably functioning prototypes of the Nina for a while, and I agree that they are likely in both static and dynamic testing. The fact that they are doing this privately and not publicly shoud not come as a surprise to anyone, as this is the method that every car manufacturer follows - and why there is both a car camoflauge and spy-shot industry. I expect they are testing the Nina hidden in plain sight - the Karma testing was initailly carried out with a pickup truck body.

The people in this forum are by and large supporters of Fisker Automotive and their vision and mission. Regardless of how frustrated we as individual consumers may be with them about their operational matters, I doubt you'll find much support here for the sort of biased, politically charged and inaccurate tripe that's been bandied about lately.

I encourage you to take an honest look at what Fisker and Tesla are trying to do, especially against the current automotive landscape in the USA, and form your own opinion about their value, and their successes and setbacks.
I have taken an honest look for over two years ........ Go research who I work for ( www.Delaware28.com ) I'm also a car guy just GOOGLE my name Jimmy Biggs Drag Racing ........... Its now time for FISKER to step up and show the American Taxpayer what they are doing....... Time is past to look thru rosie glasses at this entire cluster
 

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Jimmy,

I don't doubt your credentials, and you're clearly a car guy - the drag racing videos you've made are fantastic. I also agree that I wish Fisker was more transparent about their operations. However, my desire for them to be transparent is not the same thing as them having an obligation to show me. All companies, whether leveraging public funding or not, have a right to protect their intellectual property and conduct business as they see fit. As long as Fisker is meeting the disclosure and transparency requirements that the DOE loan stipulated, and I have no reason to believe they aren't, then my opinion of how they should behave is just that - my opinion.

It seems you're saying that since Fisker isn't being as open as you think they should be they must be the next Solyndra. Not only is that unsubstantiated I think it's counterprodutive and misleading. I'm sure you'll agree that there are a lot of people making noise about Fisker right now for political ends that care little for the facts. You don't have to look hard to find some politician saying something like "Obama just gave $500 million in taxpayer dollars to a Finnish company", which is entirely incorrect. Making statements that equate Fisker and Solyndra just because they aren't behaving they way you think they should is irresponsible in my opinion.

I'll stop spamming the forum now with my $0.02. Send me a PM if you'd like to continue the conversation, thanks!

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Brent, you are not spamming the forum. You are speaking for me also. I am in complete agreement with everything you are saying so eloquently.

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@Jimmy: I don't work for Fisker so I cannot speak for the company. My understanding is that the design and engineering work is being done in Anaheim, CA and the work in Delaware is the slow and decidedly unglamorous work of preparing the factory for Fisker's production lines. I am not familiar with auto production equipment and lines, and I can only assume that it is all bespoke and you can't just buy it and install it in a factory. So any "spy shots" or other such information about the Nina will have to come from California, not Delaware.

Fisker recently posted this photo of their staff on Facebook that includes a picture of the fairly sizable crew in Delaware who are working on prepping the factory.



In my opinion, Fisker's slow and deliberate pace is the exact opposite of Solyndra who were spending $300M building a giant factory while they were running short of operational funds because of the limitations of the various loans they had received from the DOE.

Many of us, myself included, have been very frustrated with Fisker's Radio Silence approach to communicating with its customers and the public. I am not sure if it makes you feel any better that they are just as incommunicado with us, people who plunked down a deposit 3-4 years a go to buy a car that did not really exist yet, as they are with you. That said, they seem to be more responsive to Facebook postings lately than they have been before, so you may want to try (or retry) that approach.

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@Jimmy: I don't work for Fisker so I cannot speak for the company. My understanding is that the design and engineering work is being done in Anaheim, CA and the work in Delaware is the slow and decidedly unglamorous work of preparing the factory for Fisker's production lines. I am not familiar with auto production equipment and lines, and I can only assume that it is all bespoke and you can't just buy it and install it in a factory. So any "spy shots" or other such information about the Nina will have to come from California, not Delaware.

Fisker recently posted this photo of their staff on Facebook that includes a picture of the fairly sizable crew in Delaware who are working on prepping the factory.



In my opinion, Fisker's slow and deliberate pace is the exact opposite of Solyndra who were spending $300M building a giant factory while they were running short of operational funds because of the limitations of the various loans they had received from the DOE.

Many of us, myself included, have been very frustrated with Fisker's Radio Silence approach to communicating with its customers and the public. I am not sure if it makes you feel any better that they are just as incommunicado with us, people who plunked down a deposit 3-4 years a go to buy a car that did not really exist yet, as they are with you. That said, they seem to be more responsive to Facebook postings lately than they have been before, so you may want to try (or retry) that approach.

Regards,

-- Fab.
I'll get on a plane and fly out ........ just say the word.
 
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