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My car was delivered tonight. Love it! I have no major complaints, the solar screen is frozen on February like everyone else's, and the check engine engine light has come on once, otherwise it is wonderful. Tightened to gas cap, hopefully that will fix the check engine light.
 

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My car was delivered tonight. Love it! I have no major complaints, the solar screen is frozen on February like everyone else's, and the check engine engine light has come on once, otherwise it is wonderful. Tightened to gas cap, hopefully that will fix the check engine light.
I have an OBD reader that will tell me why the "check engine" light lit, but this reminds me: the Karma has a computer in it. It should put the codes and their names into the diagnostic screen. (Maybe it does?)
 

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My car was delivered tonight. Love it! I have no major complaints, the solar screen is frozen on February like everyone else's, and the check engine engine light has come on once, otherwise it is wonderful. Tightened to gas cap, hopefully that will fix the check engine light.
To prevent the check engine light from coming on, push the start button without your foot on the brake pedal first (goes into ACC mode). Then after it has booted up completely, hit the brake and the start button. Then you're ready to drive.
I was told by my dealer to use this technique and it has worked well for me so far.
 

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karma1 said:
My car was delivered tonight. Love it! I have no major complaints, the solar screen is frozen on February like everyone else's, and the check engine engine light has come on once, otherwise it is wonderful. Tightened to gas cap, hopefully that will fix the check engine light.
To prevent the check engine light from coming on, push the start button without your foot on the brake pedal first (goes into ACC mode). Then after it has booted up completely, hit the brake and the start button. Then you're ready to drive.
I was told by my dealer to use this technique and it has worked well for me so far.
Thank you!!
 

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Anyone know of another SE future owner without their car, or am I the only one now?
 

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I'm also waiting for my SE, which is now number 76 (was 86 but I complained about my delivery dates and they allocated me an abandoned SE). They say 7-8 days from now, it's on a truck somewhere in the US...
 

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Unfortunately, even with the new start procedure, check engine light remains on. Looks like this car is headed back to the dealer. I have to admit, this is a bit frustrating.
 

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My check engine light was on too, and that's what prompted me to take the car to the dealer 11 days ago (grrrr). When my light was on it also seemed to affect the car's power when in range extender mode. That video I posted a few weekends ago showed what happened as I was driving - the power was *severely* reduced. It took 5.5 seconds just to get to 20mph. That's when I decided the car's malfunctions were becoming dangerous and took it in. Of course as I was driving it to the dealer the light finally went off. Are you also having power problems with that light on?

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The check engine light happened to me on the day I picked up my car. I just got in it, put my foot on the brake and hit start. I got the check engine light. The tech came out with a scan tool, reset the light, copied down some codes and told me I should go into ACC mode first to let the car wake up. I have done that since and no problems. Maybe it take a resetting with a scan tool to make it go away, or if it's like on my Lamborghini, it takes a couple of complete cold start, run, park cycles.
 

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How to start the Karma:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dARlD75C85I&feature=BFa&list=PLA4B565FD0550F850&lf=results_main
 

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How to start the Karma:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dARlD75C85I&feature=BFa&list=PLA4B565FD0550F850&lf=results_main
I have seen that video, but watched it again. I noticed two things. He didn't follow the two step process to start the car, and his check engine light is on. For all the other pictures of the dash, the check engine light is cropped out or the screen.
 

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I have seen that video, but watched it again. I noticed two things. He didn't follow the two step process to start the car, and his check engine light is on. For all the other pictures of the dash, the check engine light is cropped out or the screen.
The check engine light was on when I did my first demo drive in the EcoChic car. I believe whatever caused it to be on all the time was fixed in 6.10.
 

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Very interesting. He only pressed the EVer button once during the entire startup procedure, and it lit-up orange (ACC mode) rather than green (RUN mode). The parking brake was on, and after he releases the parking brake, he says the car can be put in Drive. This is confusing... does releasing the parking brake have the same effect as pressing the EVer button a second time (w/ your foot on the brake)?

Or is that the startup procedure for Tuesdays & Thursdays? :D
 

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... watched it again. I noticed two things. He didn't follow the two step process to start the car, and his check engine light is on.
All the lights are on, because it's the "lamp test" part of startup. (All cars light all the lamps at startup so that you can make sure no bulbs are burnt-out.) So I don't think that means anything.

One definitely should not have to use the two-step bootup sequence. If it's required, I'd call that a bug in the software. Of course I also hate the "agree" screens in general but Fisker are not the only people who have that....
 

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karma1 said:
... watched it again. I noticed two things. He didn't follow the two step process to start the car, and his check engine light is on.
All the lights are on, because it's the "lamp test" part of startup. (All cars light all the lamps at startup so that you can make sure no bulbs are burnt-out.) So I don't think that means anything.

One definitely should not have to use the two-step bootup sequence. If it's required, I'd call that a bug in the software. Of course I also hate the "agree" screens in general but Fisker are not the only people who have that....
Is that agree screen a legal requirement? I mean, does it need to come on EVERY single time you turn on the car? With software, you only do it once then you're set.
 

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Well, I don't think we can be sure all the steps were shown in the video. There are several "cuts" in the sequence where he may have pressed (probably did press) the EVer button a second time. If I had to bet money, I'd say he's following the two-step startup procedure even if he's not describing it in the voiceover.

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Well, I don't think we can be sure all the steps were shown in the video. There are several "cuts" in the sequence where he may have pressed (probably did press) the EVer button a second time. If I had to bet money, I'd say he's following the two-step startup procedure even if he's not describing it in the voiceover.

Mark
If that's the case, it's not much of a "how to" video.
 

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Is that agree screen a legal requirement? I mean, does it need to come on EVERY single time you turn on the car? With software, you only do it once then you're set.
In addition to the consumer liability issue (they LET me type while driving, so I assumed it must be safe and so the fact I ran over some poor jogger on the side of the road is their fault not mine), I'd guess there has been the threat of regulation in this space -- handsfree, no cell phone use at all, no touchscreen working during driving, etc. I suspect the auto industry has responded to the regulatory bodies by saying we already have warnings in place and we consider these systems important differentiators of our products, so let us self-regulate rather than having the government bear the costly process of creating regulations for us.

I personally HATE being locked out while the vehicle is in motion and am more than happy to click Agree every single time I start the car as long as they let me interact with the system while the vehicle is in motion. I'm an adult dammit, and if I do something bad because I wasn't paying attention, hold me accountable for THAT.

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