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"On Tuesday, A123 Systems will unveil a new battery technology that the company says is a breakthrough in the industry.

The advance uses a new chemistry that could permit the creation of a simpler, lighter, longer-lasting battery pack that does not require a system to cool or heat it."

"Instead, A123 is now hoping that the new technology it is unveiling Tuesday, called Nanophosphate EXT, will help it enter new markets. The company says the new electrolyte chemistry eliminates the need for heating and cooling in extreme temperatures. That would avoid the addition of costly and heavy temperature-management equipment and prolong the life of the battery.

The technology could be used to produce batteries for telecommunications equipment, military vehicles and hybrid gas-electric cars that employ start-and-stop engine systems. It also could yield batteries that could be used to replace the millions of ordinary lead-acid batteries in cars currently on the road.

“It’s a hedge against the market for electric vehicles,” Mr. Vieau said."

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AnOutsider said:
By hedge, does he mean "if EVs fail, we still have a purpose"?
Not fail. But in short term, if EV market is slow to take off, other market will keep A123 busy.

I see pure EV will take longest to establish. EVER is in a sweet spot right now. Hybrid should lead the charge of all.
 

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Sparky168 said:
Whoa...

"On Tuesday, A123 Systems will unveil a new battery technology that the company says is a breakthrough in the industry.

The advance uses a new chemistry that could permit the creation of a simpler, lighter, longer-lasting battery pack that does not require a system to cool or heat it."

"Instead, A123 is now hoping that the new technology it is unveiling Tuesday, called Nanophosphate EXT, will help it enter new markets. The company says the new electrolyte chemistry eliminates the need for heating and cooling in extreme temperatures. That would avoid the addition of costly and heavy temperature-management equipment and prolong the life of the battery.

The technology could be used to produce batteries for telecommunications equipment, military vehicles and hybrid gas-electric cars that employ start-and-stop engine systems. It also could yield batteries that could be used to replace the millions of ordinary lead-acid batteries in cars currently on the road.

“It’s a hedge against the market for electric vehicles,” Mr. Vieau said."

http://goo.gl/nBu4u
Anyone know how difficult and/or expensive it would be to someday retrofit the Karma with a more advanced battery pack? Just wondering. Thanks.
 

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kabalah70 said:
Not really news without performance and cost data. Batteries already exist that are air-cooled, using lithium titanate chemistry: Altairnano's NanoSafes and Toshiba's SCiBs.
FWIW.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=237190596384049&set=a.237190586384050.34172.140752992694477&type=1&theater[hr]
kabalah70 said:
Not really news without performance and cost data. Batteries already exist that are air-cooled, using lithium titanate chemistry: Altairnano's NanoSafes and Toshiba's SCiBs.
For Microhybrid, 3 year breakeven for EXT compares to AGM. EXT has a lower Total Cost of Ownership (TCO).

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=237192173050558&set=a.237192133050562.34173.140752992694477&type=1&theater
 
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