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ufojoe said:
Just a proximity sensor that was stuck beeping until I turned off the car. Otherwise, pure bliss...
A quick tip that I read and thanked the person who wrote it. If you make a blutooth cell phone call, you don't even have to let the call connect, the beeping will stop without having to shut off the car.

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OUR FIRST KARMA: (Had it in our garage for about 8 days out of about 30 days we had it.)

First of all, our purchase experience was as good as it gets, under the circumstances. Fisker of Atlanta, and specifically Jamin, are top notch at handling customer issues. They always had our back! And they even took back our first Karma because of the problems and sold us another one which has been working fine; with very few bugs.

I would also like to say that Fisker's customer care department was very proactive in making sure I was updated with information to help calm my fears. I received calls and emails to make sure I knew what was going on with our car while it was being serviced and to inform me of what the next update would address (which it didn't).

- PDNR problems and wouldn't move without a hard reboot and it didn't always work. This left my wife stranded at one of our kids school until the car decided to accept her 3rd hard reboot.
- Check engine light.
- Losing preset stations.
- Speedo freeze.
- The trunk wouldn't open one time for a full day; even after a hard reboot. Glad we didn't have milk in there!
- The easy entry/exit would work sometimes, but not always.
- I lost the sound system a few times after an update.
- Sometimes the rear doors would pop open when the hood closed.
- The body panel did not fit very good. All the doors were not aligned, the hood had a dip by the right front fender, the trunk had big gaps---worse than any production car I've ever seen in the past 5 years.
- Many features in the control panel don't work.

Our "last straw" Karma was after leaving it the dealer for a week or more to load new software, and the sound system wouldn't work when I went to pick it up. After the car had stranded my wife, I just told them I didn't want this car any more. Instead of getting my money back, I agreed to try another Karma so we waited about 3 weeks for another one.

OUR SECOND KARMA: (We've had it for 2 weeks and put about 700 miles on it.)

- The check engine light has been on for about 98% of the time.
- It loses the pre-set stations a lot.
- The radio volume will go up too fast on occasion.
- The back up sensor buzzer wouldn't stop buzzing on three occasions.
- The rear camera stayed on a few times.
- The easy entry/exit doesn't work.
- Many features in the control panel still don't work.

Even so, we love it! It has not left me stranded, nor has the PRND issue popped up. We took it on a road trip last weekend and we may do it again this weekend.

The car is a ball to drive and I love not using fuel!
 

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It looks like the second Karma has much less (serious) issues, more comporable to what others (and me) are experiencing. I think many of these issues will be solved with 6.15 and further updates. The problems with your first car sound more serious and may have been hardware related.
 

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Dutch said:
It looks like the second Karma has much less (serious) issues, more comporable to what others (and me) are experiencing. I think many of these issues will be solved with 6.15 and further updates. The problems with your first car sound more serious and may have been hardware related.
I totally agree. We're very happy with the second car. I just wish we didn't have to be testers. For the price of the car, it needs to work flawlessly and have features compared to other sedans priced at $110k.

We haven't spent the money on a 220 charger yet because we're so afraid the cars not going to cut it. I hope it does get fixed with 6.15.
 

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Do you think that dealer would have given you money back for the 1st Karma? After all it was a used car? If so then would that be a full price you paid?
Yes, they offered to buy it back. Our local dealer is very good. They have gone above and beyond our expectations time and time again.

I'm glad I took the second one because it's been great! I love the car and put another 250 miles on it yesterday and today.
 

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ffcars said:
WOJO said:
Do you think that dealer would have given you money back for the 1st Karma? After all it was a used car? If so then would that be a full price you paid?
Yes, they offered to buy it back. Our local dealer is very good. They have gone above and beyond our expectations time and time again.

I'm glad I took the second one because it's been great! I love the car and put another 250 miles on it yesterday and today.
I am glad you did too ffcars!
 

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The only problem I have experienced is the check engine light. I've never had a women in my life with less bugs. There is a reason why cars, trains, planes and ships are typically named after women. I'm completely happy with my Karma. Just haven't come up with a name yet. :p
 

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The only problem I have experienced is the check engine light. I've never had a women in my life with less bugs. There is a reason why cars, trains, planes and ships are typically named after women. I'm completely happy with my Karma. Just haven't come up with a name yet. :p
Voltdire?
 

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for those concerned with 220 chargers- I have a Blink charger at my home- full charge takes 4-5 hrs- NEVER any issues plus keeps great stats on cost per charge, gallons of fuel saved, monthly stats and can program to charge at set times- we have super off peak in AZ to charge EVs (11p-5a). so well worth the money

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ALso some new bugs came up after 614 not mentioned but prob fixed in 615 whenever that comes out:

Sat radio antenna error- fixes with soft reset
Check engine lights sometime on sometime off- no need to reset but will often revert on soft reset
turn signal lights may not work in the cockpit but work outside- fixes with soft reset
steering column button may not work-
Bluetooth can create many errors but erratic- fixes with soft reset
occasional engine temp light dings and comes on and off- then stays off and no problems- no reset needed

Have NEVER had to do hard reset yet

Trick is to let car go to sleep and then LOCK DOORS and then open and do restart- soft reset works better after doors are locked and opened again
 

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OUR FIRST KARMA: (Had it in our garage for about 8 days out of about 30 days we had it.)

- PDNR problems and wouldn't move without a hard reboot and it didn't always work. This left my wife stranded at one of our kids school until the car decided to accept her 3rd hard reboot.
- Check engine light.
- Losing preset stations.
- Speedo freeze.
- The trunk wouldn't open one time for a full day; even after a hard reboot. Glad we didn't have milk in there!
- The easy entry/exit would work sometimes, but not always.
- I lost the sound system a few times after an update.
- Sometimes the rear doors would pop open when the hood closed.
- The body panel did not fit very good. All the doors were not aligned, the hood had a dip by the right front fender, the trunk had big gaps---worse than any production car I've ever seen in the past 5 years.
- Many features in the control panel don't work.

Our "last straw" Karma was after leaving it the dealer for a week or more to load new software, and the sound system wouldn't work when I went to pick it up. After the car had stranded my wife, I just told them I didn't want this car any more. Instead of getting my money back, I agreed to try another Karma so we waited about 3 weeks for another one.
What became of your first Karma, the one with the "cheese touch"? Are they using it as a demo, or trying to sell it? Hopefully, it's now a demo. :huh:
 

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What became of your first Karma, the one with the "cheese touch"? Are they using it as a demo, or trying to sell it? Hopefully, it's now a demo. :huh:
I don't know. I think they were trying to get Fisker to buy it back. If they couldn't get Fisker to buy it back, they were going to go completly through the car to see what's causing the issues (ground, hardware, etc).
 
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