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Old 12-12-2011, 11:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/...-hybrid-sedan/

Supposed to go into effect on Thursday, per the above article, and those with existing deposits can "place firm orders at the original price", whatever that means, by "January 15th".

Looks like I managed to get mine in on time, anyway.
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WTF? What justifies a second price increase on a car that has yet to be delivered to customers?

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Wow, that's bad. The car simply isn't worth that much money. It was very difficult to justify at the current price, but there's no way I could recommend it for the new price. Good thing the price increase doesn't apply to existing orders, but I think this will seriously reduce the number of Karmas on the road next year.

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New buyers will have to wait for the 0.9% financing and $2500 cash back offers that are sure to follow the drop in demand...



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what is FIsker trying to pull here? Scare deposit holders into buying or "being priced out" forever? Seems like a bubble in another asset class from a few years ago!
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what is FIsker trying to pull here? Scare deposit holders into buying or "being priced out" forever? Seems like a bubble in another asset class from a few years ago!
I guess if you are one of the 3000 deposit holders who have waited patiently, they are telling you to come pick a configuration or pay a higher price.
It seems strange to me that in the last year, the quoted number of deposit holders has never changed.

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what is FIsker trying to pull here? Scare deposit holders into buying or "being priced out" forever? Seems like a bubble in another asset class from a few years ago!
I guess if you are one of the 3000 deposit holders who have waited patiently, they are telling you to come pick a configuration or pay a higher price.
It seems strange to me that in the last year, the quoted number of deposit holders has never changed.

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It's bad enough they raised prices $8K on us before and also charge us for things like exterior paint ($3K).... other companies would have grandfathered existing depositors into the original pricing scheme... or offer some other free upgrade/credits... ala Tesla or McLaren... but not Fisker. This is really frustrating and I just may cancel out of principle.
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This is just another bad move by Fisker's PR team who clearly have no clue. You just don't do things like this. You don't raise a product's price the same day that it hits the shelves. Stupid. They should have at least waited for the current orders to get delivered, and announced this in the spring.
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The Karma has always been priced too low in the US. Compared to Europe and compared to other cars with the same features. Everyone always compares the price of the Fisker to that of the Porsche Panamera. But once you've configured a Panamera or even an expensive Audi, Mercedes or BMW with the same options that are standard on the Karma (navigation, park assist, camera, voice control, all-leather, bigger wheels, LEDs, etc, etc) those cars become much more expensive.

And let's not forget that the Karma is loaded with expensive technology (huge battery, electric engines, generator, solar roof). It is amazing that it is competing in price with much less advanced cars.

And let's look at the economic side. Fisker has to make money to survive. Ofcourse they will sell more cars at a lower price, but if every sale is a loss (especially the US-cars) then eventually they will run out of money.
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Get yourself one of the Signature Editions if you can, if they will release it for the pre-ordered price. They still haven't changed their price and would have several lawsuits if they did because it was originally listed as a firm price with the $5000 deposit when regular editions were a $1000 deposit with and MSRP. My decision to get a Signature Edition is getting better everyday. Still, I am having my dealer do up the bill of sale today, just in case Fisker tries something.
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