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Old 04-07-2015, 06:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Every evening I park in my garage, get out and plug in the Karma. Then I walk around the rear of the car and open the passenger door, or the rear door to unload groceries, mail, whatever. I've been doing this for 3 years and have never had a problem.
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Old 04-07-2015, 08:03 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Opening and closing doors or locking. All of those will wake up a sleeping karma (not to be confused with sleeping baby or dog ). However none of those actions will affect charging at all.
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Early versions of the Karma software would cause a CEL to display if you woke the car during charging, for example by unlocking it or opening a door or the trunk. That has not been the case for several years. This was corrected around the time of the 6.15 version of the software which was released in May 2012 and predates the 'current' 5.10 software level.

There are plenty of charging quirks, like having to turn off the AC or wait until the AC fan turns off before plugging in, but the open-door-leading-to-CEL/MIL is no longer an issue unless for some reason you're not on the latest software. If you're not on 510 then by God you need to fix that ASAP.

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Fred (one of the owners at our latest Cars & Coffee) said he blew two electrical components in his recently by opening a door while charging. I wish I could remember exactly what they were (possibly relays?). They were two small round white plastic "pucks with wires" that he said sit on top of the HV battery which he said had to be dropped to get at them.

Does that sound like anything you've heard before Harley/Philly (or anybody else who knows what they're talking about)?
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Fred (one of the owners at our latest Cars & Coffee) said he blew two electrical components in his recently by opening a door while charging. I wish I could remember exactly what they were (possibly relays?). They were two small round white plastic "pucks with wires" that he said sit on top of the HV battery which he said had to be dropped to get at them.

Does that sound like anything you've heard before Harley/Philly (or anybody else who knows what they're talking about)?
I'm not posting as someone who knows....but he said one was a high voltage relay, and the other a low voltage relay. The high voltage relay was larger than the low voltage relay.
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Fred (one of the owners at our latest Cars & Coffee) said he blew two electrical components in his recently by opening a door while charging. I wish I could remember exactly what they were (possibly relays?). They were two small round white plastic "pucks with wires" that he said sit on top of the HV battery which he said had to be dropped to get at them.

Does that sound like anything you've heard before Harley/Philly (or anybody else who knows what they're talking about)?
I can't say that didn't happen. But I can confirm what @Bert Yetman stated, I open my car door and trunk regularly when it is charging. No problem. I get out of the car, plug in the charger, and then open the passenger door or trunk to get out whatever I want to take into the house. And I open the passenger door or trunk again later, when I put things in the car I want to take to the office.

And sometimes I even turn on the car, while charging, because I want to get into the glove box. I don't do that often, but when I have done it, it has not caused a CEL or any other type of problem.
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I've opened my doors (in the past) while charging, too. I agree ... most likely it will be fine. But, the question is: is it fine until you pick "the wrong time" by accident (never knowing what that wrong time is)? I'm probably one of the least superstitious people you'll meet, but since it's not hard to briefly unplug the car ... I've stopped opening the doors. Maybe I'm wasting my time being over cautious, but I think in this instance a lifetime of careful, disciplined behavior around battery charging will never equal the time (and expense) of a repair.

When, I get home, I use the 2 minutes it takes the car to go to sleep to walk around with a California Duster or detail spray to clean any bugs/spots. Then, I plug it in. Before I open any doors, I unplug.

Is it all strictly necessary? I don't know. NOBODY knows.

Is it a problem? Not really.
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I open the door and truck ETC while the car is charging your not going to have a problem. The only issue is charging the car before it goes to sleep. The cooling fan stays running if it stays running it's using power while your trying to produce power and the second thing is running the fan that extra amount of time doesn't help how long the fan will last before it needs to be replaced .
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Since I owned my car i accidentally opened the the doors twice while charging with no issue, but never plugged in the power till it went to sleep. when i've come home with the air or heat on, the fan ran till it went to sleep and then i plug it in. my setting for the seats or radio have gone haywire but never a CEL (knock on wood). An interesting observation is that since i placed the battery tended, i had little issues with any of the car setting. I noticed the tender usually indicated the car battery needs juice even after 5 days of storage, so now i keep it on all the time. I think if the 12V stay fully charged the car seems to act better.
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On Friday, the CEL symbol appeared on my dashboard. I was driving in Stealth and had less than 10 miles left indicated. There was no sudden drop in battery mileage indicated as I proceeded home (continuing in Stealth). I charged the car when I got home, secretly hoping that the CEL symbol would have disappeared in the morning with a full charge. To my disappointment it was still there, so I drove to a local tuning shop and got them to read my error codes. The could not read the Fisker-specific code, but they did confirm that I had a P0A7B (Battery Energy Control Module Requested MIL Illumination). I started planning calling Pat's Garage in San Francisco on Monday...

I drove home with the CEL symbol still displaying. When I got home, I left the car parked outside and got on with some gardening. A bit later I went back to the car to put it back in my garage and the CEL symbol was no longer being displayed! Any theories here? Is there a situation where the CEL can clear itself? I do not know what the second code was, of course, so maybe the situation isn't as bad as I feared initially.
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