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Karma 2012 07-30-2012 12:18 PM

How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Hi Fisker Buzzers,

I am guessing Fisker is using the VIN to determine which HV batteries are affected. Has anyone actually completed the swap? and what is the outcome?

DNAGuy 07-30-2012 12:44 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
I had to have my HV battery replaced after about 2 months of driving because the one supplied with car refused to take a charge...It was a lengthly process (~2 weeks) before the factory techs could visit my dealer and approve the replacement. Then the new battery would only partially charge and required another visit to finally determine (~1 wk) that there was an air bubble in the cooling system of the battery. Once that was repaired everything has been fine...There is no observable difference in range or chargin between the old and new batteries.

Buck

Karma 2012 07-30-2012 10:57 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Buck, thanks for sharing your experience. I will report my result of HV battery replacement after a few days. Crossing my fingers !

SoCalGuy 07-31-2012 12:20 AM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
My Karma decided it no longer wanted to charge this weekend. Need to take it in and figure out what's going on. It has a brand spanking new on-board charger, but it sounds like the relays aren't opening up when I plug in (although it makes the clicks for the fan).

michaelCA 07-31-2012 07:57 AM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
I will get my car back today with the new HV battery and 6.28 update. I will report later if I see any difference.

Stefan 07-31-2012 11:42 AM

How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelCA
I will get my car back today with the new HV battery and 6.28 update. I will report later if I see any difference.

Michael, what was the reason to get your HV battery replaced?

Tx Stefan

DNAGuy 07-31-2012 12:53 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalGuy
My Karma decided it no longer wanted to charge this weekend. Need to take it in and figure out what's going on. It has a brand spanking new on-board charger, but it sounds like the relays aren't opening up when I plug in (although it makes the clicks for the fan).

So Cal Guy,

That sound like exactly my experience when it eventually resulted in an HV battery replacement (see above thread. I hope your issue gets resolved in more timely fashion than mine.

Buck

michaelCA 07-31-2012 05:50 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelCA
I will get my car back today with the new HV battery and 6.28 update. I will report later if I see any difference.

Michael, what was the reason to get your HV battery replaced?

Tx Stefan

I had a suddenly loss of power between 3-8 miles left and the ICE did not kick in during Stealth Mode. Continue in this mode I got a warning "loss of Energy". Besides that I had only 30-35 miles per charge.

DNAGuy 07-31-2012 06:57 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelCA
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelCA
I will get my car back today with the new HV battery and 6.28 update. I will report later if I see any difference.

Michael, what was the reason to get your HV battery replaced?

Tx Stefan

I had a suddenly loss of power between 3-8 miles left and the ICE did not kick in during Stealth Mode. Continue in this mode I got a warning "loss of Energy". Besides that I had only 30-35 miles per charge.

Stephan,

I would not expect an increase in range with the new HV battery. i have found I can significantly increase HV battery range by using Sport mode for 5-10 seconds when accelerating to enter highway or climbing a hill. That can add as much 10 miles to the HV range without impacting gas usage much at all.

Buck

EVer1 08-01-2012 04:12 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
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i have found I can significantly increase HV battery range by using Sport mode for 5-10 seconds when accelerating to enter highway or climbing a hill. That can add as much 10 miles to the HV range without impacting gas usage much at all.

Buck
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I'm going to try that - good tip!

Sigurd 08-01-2012 04:42 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EVer1

i have found I can significantly increase HV battery range by using Sport mode for 5-10 seconds when accelerating to enter highway or climbing a hill. That can add as much 10 miles to the HV range without impacting gas usage much at all.

Buck
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I'm going to try that - good tip!
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So do you hit sport mode like 30 seconds before you accelerate or just a couple of seconds before you accelerate or climb a hill. It seems like the engine does not rev up for a bit when you start it.

Bert Yetman 08-01-2012 05:57 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Running an ICE for 5-10 seconds only is detrimental to any ICE. If the oil doesn't have time to reach maximum temperature, the contaminants from a cold start remain in the oil. Any time you start the ICE you should keep it running until it reaches normal operating temperature. That rids the oil of most contaminants.

dennis 08-01-2012 06:50 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bert Yetman
Running an ICE for 5-10 seconds only is detrimental to any ICE. If the oil doesn't have time to reach maximum temperature, the contaminants from a cold start remain in the oil. Any time you start the ICE you should keep it running until it reaches normal operating temperature. That rids the oil of most contaminants.

The emissions control software will not allow the ICE to run for only 5-10 seconds. It will continue to run until emissions have been minimized even if you take it out of Sport mode.




michaelCA 08-01-2012 06:56 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
I wrote earlier in this post that I just got a new HV battery. I received the car with power for 34 miles and drove it down 20 miles. Then I put it on my 220V Schneider charger for at least 4 hours. When I got into the car the display showed 34 miles???
Ok, I thought I may did something wrong, but today I started to charge at 25 miles and after 4 hours I only got 39 miles. :-(!!!
Anybody any idea what could be the problem. I have doubt that my Schneider charger went bad. It worked before the HV change very well. The battery was fully chargerrd in less than 5 hourss.

daviddd 08-01-2012 09:33 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karma 2012
Hi Fisker Buzzers,

I am guessing Fisker is using the VIN to determine which HV batteries are affected. Has anyone actually completed the swap? and what is the outcome?

My battery was replaced within the first month or so of delivery (one of first 50 delivered and first 10 in CA) due to coolant connections defect - proactively. It was working fine before and still is. Waiting for 6.28 with 5k svc in a week or so.

Knock on wood (reclaimed from a sunken tree) I have had no major issues, but many of the minor anoiances chronicalled here.

MyColorIsGreen 08-02-2012 02:03 AM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
I also get way better non-gas mileage when I kick the ICE on before I enter the freeway onramp... I only drive 5 miles on the freeway so by the time I exit the freeway the ICE has warmed past emissions and turns off when I am exiting the offramp in hill mode.

when I take the side streets to work I get about 80% mile to mile on the ev range.. 40 actual miles in range

when I use the freeway I get about 65% averaging about 32miles range.

using the ICE while on freeways I maintain about 80% or 40 actual miles in range.

my overall mpg for 3500 miles is 52mpg
I like the car with the ICE running but would love it if I could get 150KW from the battery while I get 150KW from the ICE... this would equate to about 4 maybe 5 second 0-60 and I would then love the car.

SoCalGuy 08-02-2012 09:56 AM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DNAGuy
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalGuy
My Karma decided it no longer wanted to charge this weekend. Need to take it in and figure out what's going on. It has a brand spanking new on-board charger, but it sounds like the relays aren't opening up when I plug in (although it makes the clicks for the fan).

So Cal Guy,

That sound like exactly my experience when it eventually resulted in an HV battery replacement (see above thread. I hope your issue gets resolved in more timely fashion than mine.

Buck

Yeah, still waiting to hear back from Fisker. Will let everyone know what I find out.

Fabulist 08-02-2012 10:55 AM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karma 2012
Hi Fisker Buzzers,

I am guessing Fisker is using the VIN to determine which HV batteries are affected. Has anyone actually completed the swap? and what is the outcome?

Fisker has confirmed that my car is on the list for a new battery but have not said anything about when. The HV battery in my car has been (knocking on reclaimed wood) working very well both with regard to range and performance, so I am not in any hurry to have it replaced.

michaelCA 08-08-2012 05:01 AM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
I have 6.28 and a new HV battery for one week. Now I got the problem it won't charge properly. I only charge 18 miles in 4 hours. also charging 14 hours with 110V I get only 40 miles. At Southcoast Plaza mall I got 5 miles in 1.5h (220V). According Fisker OC dealer, the battery was not loaded correctly the first time. It seems they will pick it up on Monday again. :-(
Anybody faced the same problem?

Bert Yetman 08-08-2012 04:52 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Until getting 6.28, there were no problems other than the CEL. Received a 50 mile charge faithfully every night, without fans running. Now I get 42 sometimes and 50 sometimes, with fans running. My gas gage sometimes glows red and shows very little gas, but still registers between 60-110 miles remaining. Sometimes the dash is very slow to light up after pushing start, and sometimes the computer screen remains dark with a Fisker emblem showing. The key word is sometimes.

The fans running may be due to the hotter weather.

DNAGuy 08-14-2012 01:35 PM

RE: How many of you have received an entire HV battery change? and what is the outcome?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelCA
I wrote earlier in this post that I just got a new HV battery. I received the car with power for 34 miles and drove it down 20 miles. Then I put it on my 220V Schneider charger for at least 4 hours. When I got into the car the display showed 34 miles???
Ok, I thought I may did something wrong, but today I started to charge at 25 miles and after 4 hours I only got 39 miles. :-(!!!
Anybody any idea what could be the problem. I have doubt that my Schneider charger went bad. It worked before the HV change very well. The battery was fully chargerrd in less than 5 hourss.

Michael,

That is exactly what happened with my HV battery (see earlier post). It turned out to be an air bubble in the HV battery coolent that was somehow disrupting the cooling or triggering an alarm during charging. When the system was bled and refilled, the problem was solved.

Buck

Wdavidkl 11-21-2018 08:32 AM

One of my 15 battery cells is no longer fully charging. The engine light remains on all the time now. The car still charges to 50 miles, but depending on my driving and use of accessories determines when the charge drops off. It was going from 19 miles left to 0 for a while. Recently I've got it going to 14 from 0 miles. Lamborghini/Karma of West Palm quoted me $14,000 for a full battery replacement with a warranty. Going to hold off until the current battery no longer charges. Don't fix it if it's not broken attitude.

Ira 11-21-2018 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wdavidkl (Post 323719)
One of my 15 battery cells is no longer fully charging. The engine light remains on all the time now. The car still charges to 50 miles, but depending on my driving and use of accessories determines when the charge drops off. It was going from 19 miles left to 0 for a while. Recently I've got it going to 14 from 0 miles. Lamborghini/Karma of West Palm quoted me $14,000 for a full battery replacement with a warranty. Going to hold off until the current battery no longer charges. Don't fix it if it's not broken attitude.


You should be able to replace the defective module for a fraction of the cost. However, if your CSP is concerned about the reliability of the entire battery, you might want to act sooner rather than later. There have been several instances (including the disastrous Consumer Reports test drive in 2012) where Karmas have became completely immobilized. It's one thing to be bricked by the battery during the day on a dry test track; and quite another to be stuck at night on a highway in the middle of a rainstorm.



Just sayin' . . .

Harleyguy 11-21-2018 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ira (Post 323723)
You should be able to replace the defective module for a fraction of the cost. However, if your CSP is concerned about the reliability of the entire battery, you might want to act sooner rather than later. There have been several instances (including the disastrous Consumer Reports test drive in 2012) where Karmas have became completely immobilized. It's one thing to be bricked by the battery during the day on a dry test track; and quite another to be stuck at night on a highway in the middle of a rainstorm.



Just sayin' . . .

Most Karma Dealership will only replace the complete battery most of the dealers donít have any idea how to replace one module and be able to balance the module before itís installed . Iím not even sure if Karma sells just a module . Also the batteries they are selling is also old stock .

Myself and Joe can take credit when it comes to module replacements and buying the equipment to do it correctly. I was taught how to service the hv battery when Fisker closed its door and passed that information over to Joe and that was late 2013 .

ufojoe 11-22-2018 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wdavidkl (Post 323719)
One of my 15 battery cells is no longer fully charging. The engine light remains on all the time now. The car still charges to 50 miles, but depending on my driving and use of accessories determines when the charge drops off. It was going from 19 miles left to 0 for a while. Recently I've got it going to 14 from 0 miles. Lamborghini/Karma of West Palm quoted me $14,000 for a full battery replacement with a warranty. Going to hold off until the current battery no longer charges. Don't fix it if it's not broken attitude.

Sound like you might have two bad cells. When I have one bad cell, it drops to 0 from around 7-8 miles. When I had two bad cells, it would drop to 0 from mid to high teens.

ss89 11-22-2018 09:32 PM

Check your private messages
 
Wdavidkl'

Check your private messages on this site. Might prove to be solution to your

battery issues . SS


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