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Fox News Attacks US Loans to Fisker and Tesla
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09-30-2009, 01:23 PM
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Fox News Attacks US Loans to Fisker and Tesla
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909280033
MediaMatters.org Wrote:Fox emits misinformation about loans to fuel-efficient car companies FiskerBuzz.com | Follow Fisker Buzz on Twitter & Facebook |
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09-30-2009, 01:24 PM
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RE: Fox News Attacks US Loans to Fisker and Tesla
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909280033
And here is the transcript: From the September 28 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom: MacCALLUM: And the debate raged for months over saving carmakers in Michigan, as you well remember. But it hardly got any notice when U.S. taxpayers -- have you heard this? -- gave a half a billion dollars -- U.S. taxpayers -- to a car company that is creating jobs in Finland. A half a billion to build cars that most Americans will never be able to afford. [...] MacCALLUM: Well, it's a car loan of sorts, and it's raising some questions about the power of high-level access. Listen to this. The U.S. government making a $529 million loan to a small car company that happens to be backed by former Vice President Al Gore. Here's the car that they're looking to build. Get this -- it is called the Karma, OK. It's called the Karma. It's a hybrid. It's built by Fisker Automotive. You may never have heard of Fisker Automotive, but critics are asking why would this U.S. taxpayer funding be going to a car, Karma, that's built in Finland? Well, that's a good question. The price tag for this greenmobile -- about $89,000. So who are they building this car for? Dave Williams with Citizens Against Government Waste joins us now. Dave, you know, this really caught my eye when I saw this story, because Al Gore is connected to this company, right? WILLIAMS: He is. MacCALLUM: And when you go into this, you learn that the Department of Energy spent a lot of time with Fisker. So they have lots of dollars to hand out at the Department of Energy for these programs. Spent a lot of time -- they did test drives with Fisker, they spent all of this energy being there. Why did this company get this huge amount of money from the U.S. government? WILLIAMS: Well, it shows you that there's no such thing as a retired politician. Once you're a politician, you still have sway with agencies, with other politicians. And it shows that Al Gore still has a lot of clout, unfortunately, in the Department of Energy to secure a $500 million loan. MacCALLUM: You know, the other car -- there are lots of other companies who applied for this money and didn't get it. And they are being a bit magnanimous about it. They're saying, you know, we're not suggesting that there's any connection, and it's highly possible that maybe Fisker has the best model. Do you think that's the case? WILLIAMS: Well, no. I'm sure that's what their PR people are telling them to say, because I'm sure they're behind closed doors, you know, pounding the desk, going, "How come we didn't get this?" And everyone looks around and says, "Well, we don't have any influential lobbyists. We don't have the former vice president batting for us." So, I think that, yeah, they're being very magnanimous, but I don't think it's very sincere. I think behind closed doors they're a lot more worried about this. And this is a program that started under President Bush, so this is, you know, the true hands of bipartisanship coming through here, is that you have a Republican president who signed this, and now you have a former vice president who is a Democrat that's taking advantage of it. Isn't this a beautiful world of bipartisanship? MacCALLUM: You know, when you look at -- one of these cars costs $89,000 -- that's the one that Fisker is making. There's another company, Tesla Motors, and they got $465 million from the same program. They're building a car that costs $109,000. So all -- you've got all of this U.S. taxpayer money to encourage the building of fuel-efficient cars, but it's going to Finland to build cars that cost $89,000 and $109,000. So how is this going to, you know, make any impact on people who are just trying to buy a good car that's fuel efficient? They cannot afford to buy these. WILLIAMS: It really isn't. When you talk about a $90,000 car and a $110,000 car, this isn't going to help average Americans. This isn't going to help the working class get these cars. What it does is providing -- is creating a new market for high-end hybrids and electric vehicles. And the last thing the government should be doing is putting money into this. If the private sector thinks that there's money that can be made with this, they should be funding it, not taxpayers. Imagine asking a taxpayer who makes $30,000 a year, saying, "Hey, listen, we want, you know, some of your money, so we can have a car to sell to rich people." That doesn't fly anymore. MacCALLUM: Yeah, you know, and you're touching on the most important point of all of this. I mean, if you just let the car market decide where this money should go, and if these huge -- and there's a lot of big venture capital firms involved in these businesses -- if they believe so strongly that these are huge -- good investments that are gonna make them a ton of money, they're going to give these companies the money that they need, right? WILLIAMS: I suspect that the private sector looked at this and said there is no market for it. MacCALLUM: Well, that's scary. WILLIAMS: So -- that -- that is scary. And the government -- MacCALLUM: Because they're messing with a lot of taxpayer dollars if that's the case. WILLIAMS: And this is really the government of last resort saying, "We couldn't get money anywhere else, so we're coming to you, we know that you have no internal controls, and if we just get some popular vice president on our behalf, sure, we'll get a few hundred million dollars." And will the taxpayer ever get paid back for this? It is very highly unlikely that the taxpayer will get paid back this loan. MacCALLUM: All right. And before I let you go, I just want to point out that Fisker says that the Department of Energy loan is gonna be used to finance U.S. production of $40,000 family sedan, but that sedan has yet to be designed. So we'll keep a close eye on that one. Thank you very much, Dave. From the September 25 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto: CAVUTO: Now, funding for Finland, and you're footing the bill. An Al Gore-backed company scoring a $529 million federal loan to build cars over there. The hybrid sports car will sell for 89 grand -- not exactly an economy car. Now, we should note some of that cash will go toward building cars here, but that is years down the road. Well, Steve Moore from The Wall Street Journal says this Finland thing is a fiasco. But, Stephen, it's built in there, and I don't know how the heck it was built in there. MOORE: Yeah. By the way, I'm with you, Neil. If somebody gave me the opportunity of a lifetime to work at the White House, I don't think I'd go and trash the president. And you know what? You know -- CAVUTO: Well, I'm not here to trash Matt. I mean, I am just here -- that's my opinion. MOORE: No, no. But you know what? This is important, though. CAVUTO: Matt is, you know, Matt -- that's fine. MOORE: There is such a shortage of loyalty in this town of Washington that I live in, and Ronald Reagan said it best -- if you want a friend in Washington, buy a dog. But let me just say this about this story about this company in Finland. I mean, this is money that was supposed to be for creating jobs. It was Department of Energy money to create a new high-performance car that is fuel-efficient, electric car. Half a billion dollars went to this Finland company. By the way, there was another grant of about that same amount that's gone to a British company. That's almost $1 billion, Neil, of federal money that is going to -- CAVUTO: But how did that happen? How did -- the idea was it was supposed to help us. MOORE: Right. CAVUTO: I mean -- MOORE: Exactly. Well, how it happened is a great mystery to me, because, you know, the point is I'm not for giving federal grants to any company, even if they're an American company. You know me, Neil. I don't like this kind of largesse. But at least if we're going to spend money -- CAVUTO: You wouldn't give money -- you wouldn't give money to your mother. I mean, I know that. MOORE: Exactly. CAVUTO: So the fact of the matter is -- MOORE: But my point is -- CAVUTO: No, I know, I know. But this is -- MOORE: If we're going to do it -- CAVUTO: I remember you had said, and you had written, that these are the dangers of federal largesse. MOORE: That's right. CAVUTO: You know, it gets out of hand, right? MOORE: Yeah, but not only that. If you were going to do it -- and I'm not in favor of it -- but if you were going to give out $1 billion, give it to an American company. I mean, my goodness, Neil, Chrysler and GM are bankrupt. We've put $100 billion into these companies, and we're giving them money to our rivals. And then think about this, Neil. We are borrowing $1 billion from the Europeans and the Chinese to get the money so we can give a grant to the European companies. With $1 billion, you could create about 20,000 middle-class jobs in this country. It just makes no sense from an economic policy standpoint. CAVUTO: That's about 10 seconds of federal spending, but you are right. But let me ask you, Steve. The bigger issue here that I think a lot of people forget is that built into this government dependency, whatever its negative fallout, is that people are now expected either to buy cars, either to buy green cars, either to go green, to buy a house, to buy a bigger house -- the government is going to backstop us. And we were talking just before with Matt about something that happened a year ago with the arrival of TARP and, you know, all of that that we set, you know, in motion a dangerous precedent, did we not? MOORE: Well, I would say so. And I think most of the people watching this show, I think, would question the wisdom of the Department of Energy giving out these grants in the first place. But I think the vast, vast majority of Americans would say, at least if we do it, find an American company that's going to employ American workers to do this. CAVUTO: But you'd think that would be written into it MOORE: I mean, we have 15 million Americans unemployed. CAVUTO: But see, now I am not for this stuff. But then I would just say, "All right, well, if we are going to do this -- if we are going to do this, then let's make sure that American companies exclusively benefit." Like with cash for clunkers we found out a lot of these people are buying, you know, Mazdas and Toyotas. Good for Mazda. Good for Toyota. I am not begrudging them, you know, their attention and success, but I don't think that was the goal here. MOORE: Well, I mean, the point -- the goal, they say, was two-fold. One was to create jobs with stimulus money. And the second was to create a new car that's fuel efficient and runs on batteries. And the Department of Energy says the best company they could find was this Finnish -- Finland company. Look, I don't know about that, but I do know there are a lot of companies in the United States in the race to try to develop this technology. I mean, it would be like, you know, when we were trying to build a satellite and put -- be the first one to the moon, if we said, "You know what? We're going to contract this out to the Russians to do it." What sense would that make? CAVUTO: That would have been weird, I guess. Stephen, always good having you. Thank you very much. FiskerBuzz.com | Follow Fisker Buzz on Twitter & Facebook |
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10-01-2009, 03:01 PM
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RE: Fox News Attacks US Loans to Fisker and Tesla
Glad to see some are setting Fox news straight on this.
I don't understand how there can be such a fuss around money going to Fisker after all the money Detroit has received in bailouts and funding for their own projects. |
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10-03-2009, 01:29 PM
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RE: Fox News Attacks US Loans to Fisker and Tesla
Henrik Fisker has released an official statement to address all the false news reports:
http://fiskerbuzz.com/2009/10/fisker-rel...-loan.html FiskerBuzz.com | Follow Fisker Buzz on Twitter & Facebook |
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