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11-10-2011, 10:03 AM
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Another delay...
My car was scheduled to begin production next Monday (11/14). On today's dealer conference call with Fisker HQ, my dealer was told that there would be "slight delays" in certain colors, including Deep Ocean (my color). No quanitification of what "slight" is, but we are on Fisker Time. And its only been 6 1/2 months since I placed my firm order for this color.

Anyone have more info on this?

- Dennis
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11-10-2011, 03:43 PM (This post was last modified: 11-10-2011 03:51 PM by Shane.)
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RE: Another delay...
(11-10-2011 10:03 AM)dennis Wrote:  My car was scheduled to begin production next Monday (11/14). On today's dealer conference call with Fisker HQ, my dealer was told that there would be "slight delays" in certain colors, including Deep Ocean (my color). No quanitification of what "slight" is, but we are on Fisker Time. And its only been 6 1/2 months since I placed my firm order for this color.

Anyone have more info on this?

- Dennis


It gets worse. My car was scheduled to be built on 9/26, with delivery early November.

Today, I received this from Fisker's marketing division:

Thank you for being a part of the Fisker Automotive family. Your Karma should be available for delivery no later then the first of Feburay. If you have any questions, please contact our office. Thank you for your business.


Which was in response to the email I sent them:

From: xxxxxxxxxxx@mac.com
To: marketing@fiskerautomotive.com
CC:
Sent: 11/08/11 11:21:35
Subject: Re: Discover More Karma. The Official Brochure Is Here.

Instead of a brochure, how about a delivery date for my car?
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11-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Post: #3
RE: Another delay...
Shane,

It's been my experience that Fisker Corporate doesn't seem to know the exact details and dates of anyone's individual car - they always refer you to the dealer. What I suspect (and sincerely hope) is that the response you received isn't specifically accurate about your car and is just the general-purpose response Fisker's communication group gives about all inquiries. When I've asked Fisker Corporate for specific information, their systems didn't seem so tell them much and they always referred me to the dealer.

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11-10-2011, 05:53 PM
Post: #4
RE: Another delay...
(11-10-2011 03:43 PM)Shane Wrote:  It gets worse. My car was scheduled to be built on 9/26, with delivery early November.

Today, I received this from Fisker's marketing division:

Thank you for being a part of the Fisker Automotive family. Your Karma should be available for delivery no later then the first of Feburay. If you have any questions, please contact our office. Thank you for your business.

My original build date was 9/7, which was moved to 9/14, which was moved to 10/7, which was moved to 10/20, which was moved to 11/14, which is now "slightly delayed". Every time I approach the supposed date that my car is to be built, they slip the schedule.

I think it is important that you press your dealer for a revised production date, and once you reach that date ensure that a VIN number has been assigned. It is the only way to know that they are actually building your car.

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11-11-2011, 04:05 AM
Post: #5
RE: Another delay...
I just received some additional info from my dealer.

Facts - The colors that are delayed are Deep Ocean, Inferno, Laguna and Earth. The slip has not been quantified, but they promised to update the dealers by the end of the week.

Speculation - We haven't seen any production cars in these colors, only White, Black and Silver. My guess is that when they tried to paint the first cars in these colors, they encountered some problem and are having to reformulate the paint. I remember them saying at the roadshow that the color samples had more Diamond Dust in them than the production colors would have.

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11-11-2011, 04:52 AM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2011 05:21 AM by Fabulist.)
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RE: Another delay...
(11-11-2011 04:05 AM)dennis Wrote:  I just received some additional info from my dealer.

Facts - The colors that are delayed are Deep Ocean, Inferno, Laguna and Earth. The slip has not been quantified, but they promised to update the dealers by the end of the week.

I am sure this is hard to hear but I think we definitely want them to get their paint formulation perfect since it would be very disruptive and difficult to get the car repainted, as opposed to a software upgrade or replacing some bit in the engine. I have been known to call the Karma the Zeno's Paradox of cars so I know well about slipped production dates and "slightly" delayed productions but I also understand the need for the first few hundred cars to be as perfect as possible, so I have given quality priority over deadline, but of course, none of us have infinite patience and that particular well is going to run dry eventually.

Hang in there, your pain is our pain.

-- Fab.

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Owner of 2012 Eco Sport Black (Eclipse) with Monsoon Tritone Interior. Ordered: May 2008, Delivered: Jan 2012 by Marin Luxury Cars
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11-11-2011, 11:23 AM
Post: #7
RE: Another delay...
(11-11-2011 04:05 AM)dennis Wrote:  I just received some additional info from my dealer.

Facts - The colors that are delayed are Deep Ocean, Inferno, Laguna and Earth. The slip has not been quantified, but they promised to update the dealers by the end of the week.

Speculation - We haven't seen any production cars in these colors, only White, Black and Silver. My guess is that when they tried to paint the first cars in these colors, they encountered some problem and are having to reformulate the paint. I remember them saying at the roadshow that the color samples had more Diamond Dust in them than the production colors would have.

- Dennis

It would follow then that other color choices would move up in the queue.
Right?

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11-11-2011, 01:49 PM
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Billy O - Stop using common sense and rational reasoning. This is Fisker we're talking about...

Deposit #632 made March 22, 2008...ordered EcoSport - Eclipse - Monsoon Tri-Tone on March 22, 2011...Began driving February 17, 2012 (although I would have waited until March 22 if necessary)
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11-11-2011, 02:28 PM
Post: #9
RE: Another delay...
Considering they haven't delivered the Signature Series cars yet and I have known my VIN since May 10th, 2011, I wouldn't hold my breath on delivery. I still don't even have a delivery date and my car supposedly was built in August. Until you see a lot of posts of the first 100 cars having been delivered, don't get too excited because disappointment will follow. It certainly has numerous times for me.
Cheers,
Sigurd
PS, I'd rather wait for a quality product than them rush me a lemmon.

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11-11-2011, 04:20 PM
Post: #10
RE: Another delay...
(11-10-2011 10:03 AM)dennis Wrote:  My car was scheduled to begin production next Monday (11/14). On today's dealer conference call with Fisker HQ, my dealer was told that there would be "slight delays" in certain colors, including Deep Ocean (my color). No quanitification of what "slight" is, but we are on Fisker Time. And its only been 6 1/2 months since I placed my firm order for this color.

Anyone have more info on this?

- Dennis

I heard the same thing, but I wqs Laguna.
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