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Old 04-12-2012, 09:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Citroen unveils large stylish plug-in hybrid EV concept

Plugin hybrid with a 226hp engine producing 275Nm torque mated to a 70hp electric motor. Apparently the concept weighs just 3300 lb.















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Not bad...love the back, wheels, side, but the front is horrible... nice station wagon but specs aren't great... 70hp electric motor? must be more of a Volt or Prius than a Karma....
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My first impression is WOW... But it's the front and back that are nice, the center feels like just a long sheet of metal.
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The styling is impressive, and I have always liked Citroens's ride comfort and handling, plus they are usually stuffed with cool gadgets. Not sure about the power, sounds more like a parallel hybrid where the ICE and Electric Motor have to work at the same time (e.g., Prius) rather than a serial hybrid like the Volt/Ampera and the Fisker.
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Default RE: Citroen unveils large stylish plug-in hybrid EV concept

Here is a slightly more detailed description from our friends at Top Gear. This actually makes a little more sense.

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Underneath the 1500kg shell, there's full plug-in full-hybrid tech, which Citroen thinks will esteem to 166mpg, 50km all-electric range, 295hp, and 39g/km of CO2. There's also a deliciously Turbo Outrun-sounding ‘boost' function, which combines the power of the combustion engine and electric motor, dispatching all 295 horsepowers at once. This means 0-62mph takes 5.4 seconds and it'll travel a 1,000m in 25.3 seconds from a standing start.

The drivetrain mashes a normal FWD combustion engine together with an electric motor - rechargeable in 3.5 hours, fact fans - on the rear axle that develops 70hp and 200 torques. If the car reckons you're prodding the edge of adhesion, it switches itself to four-wheel-drive mode, which you can also summon manually. Which sounds useful.
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a serial hybrid like the Volt/Ampera and the Fisker.
Fab,

Fisker is a series hybrid. Not Volt. Volt does not want to drive the battery hard (gets too hot and not good for LG Chem battery) and have a fancy planetary gearing system to bring in ICE assist in high speed and certain power demanding modes. Here are good Youtube on the Volt Powertrain deep dive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an-VyIau-FM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=343-NQKOvLg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWSK8BR6LT8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9-9atMw6Zs

So far, only Karma has the battery to do pure EV mode to 95 mph! Obviously, Leaf is much slower.

To appreciate the A123 battery, have a look at the competition's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9VvHsIlVj8
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